What if you were happily minding your own business during a pleasant day out, casually walking with no great purpose to be anywhere in particular and you are suddenly overcome from behind by more than one attacker; a bag thrust over your head and then you are bundled quickly into a vehicle and driven away.
It is dark inside your restraint and you feel a prick on your arm, a needle, a sedative and that is the last thing you remember.
The next conscious moment you are stirring and your eyes adjust to your new environment, whether it be a room in a house or a deserted island, it matters not.
Would the most pressing question formulating in your mind not be:
Where am I?
Hastily followed by:
Why am I here?
A plot which has been viewed a number of times in film and television, continuing with the protagonist investigating and exploring their environment for clues to not only answer these important questions but as we will discover, the most vital enquiry in this scenario:
How do I escape?
This is a telling question and aspect to a desperate problem requiring a solution.
In, how does one evade and escape from their captors now they are in captivity?
Incongruous then that in this hypothetical kidnap scenario, nearly all would seek to find answers and a way of escape, yet in real life the converse is true in that most people live their lives as if none of this matters.
How extraordinary that the majority of people – perhaps as extreme as 99.9% (of which will become clearer as we progress) – who have ever lived… are born, exist and die without ever truly assessing their new (rather malign and hostile) environment which they have suddenly been propelled into via a traumatic for the mother (and child, who forgets) birthing experience.
Most humans come into existence and are content to go through the motions of school, work, old age and ultimately death without actually answering this profound conundrum of life.
As one gets older, it becomes unfortunately abundantly obvious that this world is not a fair or happy place for the vast bulk of its inhabitants who live in severe abject poverty, suffering from a lack of adequate food, running water, electricity and suitable shelter.
While the more privileged spend their lives seeking temporary and superficial happiness through the accrual of either material goodies; whether it be sought through houses, cars, possessions, technology, hobbies, holidays, food, alcohol and drugs… or emotional (physical) gratification in a litany of failed relationships and unsatisfying sex.
Either way, the end result is the black (spiritual) void inside everyone is never fully filled – even in those who claim to be religious – and people die wondering what this life was all about, or worse, think they have worked it out (from religion or science), but have only really found false security in a partial (and often misleading) ‘truth’ at best.
One would have to give kudos to every atheist for actually questioning the status quo and doubting what religion says on these questions of importance as inadequate. In fact the world’s religions (and primarily Christianity in this discussion) have a lot to answer for in not only misrepresenting what the actual truth (of the Bible) entails but in deliberately hiding the truth about the Creator and what His plan is.
Therefore the message contained herein, is not addressed to atheists alone… but equally as much – and importantly – to theists (and deists alike).
The purpose of this article is not to convince anyone to change their view, whether an atheist or not; but rather to ponder carefully, why they possess the opinions (beliefs) they hold so dear and which often define their own image of themselves and their place in this world.
While this writer is not an atheist, they readily concur with many of their questions and arguments in which those who proclaim a religious persuasion are sorely lacking in answering and thereby also incur this writer’s exasperation and frustration at some of their simple mindedness and folly.
A response of many atheists is to then develop an arrogant stance towards those who support a flawed religious position, which then hinders the atheist from perceiving how their own paradigm is invariably myopically limiting.
Atheists and theists are opposite ends of a spectrum, with arguably deists bridging the gap.
Defining each one may be helpful at this point.
Online definitions include the following, yet not a simple task for there are numerous definitions (below) just for atheism.
Atheism
‘Atheism, in the broadest sense, is an absence of belief in the existence of deities. Less broadly, atheism is a rejection of the belief that any deities exist. In an even narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities. Atheism is contrasted with theism, which is the belief that at least one deity exists.’
Atheist
1. One who disbelieves or denies the existence of a God, or supreme intelligent Being.
2. A godless person.
3. A person who believes that no deities exist (especially, one who has no other religious belief).
4. A person who rejects belief that any deities exist (whether or not that person believes that deities do not exist).
5. A person who has no belief in any deities, such as a person who has no concept of deities.
6. A person who does not believe in a particular deity (or any deity in a particular pantheon), notwithstanding that they may believe in another deity.
7. Someone who denies the existence of god.
The comment this writer would make, is that there is only one Deity (unitarian [not to be confused with monotheism]); not many (polytheism); not two (binitarian); and definitely not three (trinitarian) – Article: Arius, Alexander & Athanasius.
Deism
1 One who believes in the existence of a God, but denies revealed religion; a freethinker.
2 A person who believes that God created the universe and then abandoned it.’
‘Deism is the belief, based solely upon logic and observation while rejecting any supernatural speculation, that a Supreme Being or God created the universe. As a philosophical position and rationalistic theology that rejects prophecies, revelations, and religious texts as legitimate or reliable sources of divine knowledge, Deism instead asserts that empirical reason and observation of the natural world are exclusively logical, reliable, and sufficient to determine the existence of a creator God.
Unlike classical theism, many Deists believe in the existence of a creator God who simply does not intervene anymore after creating the universe, again solely based on rational thought without any reliance on revealed religions or religious authorities. Fundamentally, Deism emphasizes the concept of natural theology – that is, God’s existence is revealed through nature itself… [and] that God created the universe but does not intervene in its operations.’
This is certainly a thought provoking definition for it is in some ways closer to the truth than the definition for theism.
Three major points worth highlighting include the reality (truth) that God (the Creator) does not (1) intervene directly in the affairs of humanity and will be elaborated on as we progress.
This is probably quite a surprise for many Christians.
Yet this intrinsic sense of abandonment is a real one, with an explanation.
Deists are correct by degree in (2) rejecting philosophies and theology espoused by religion as well as revelations and prophecies which do not find their source in the scriptures of the Bible.
While (3) evidencing the existence of a Creator just through science and by the means of the observable natural world around us is limiting on one hand for those who seek spiritual answers (and a relationship), it may be the most appropriate route to take in endeavouring to reach an open-minded atheist.
Even the false apostle Paul (refer article: The Pauline Paradox), addresses the early Christian fellowship in Rome about the clearly obvious demonstration of a Creator by virtue of the existence of a creation (Third proof of God’s existence: Creation, the immense variety and number of species requires a Creator and originator) – Article: Chance Chaos or Designated Design?
Romans 1:18-22
Good News Translation
‘God’s anger is revealed from heaven against all the sin and evil of the people whose evil ways prevent the truth from being known…. because what can be known about God is plain to them, for God himself made it plain. Ever since God created the world, his invisible qualities, both his eternal power and his divine nature, have been clearly seen; they are perceived in the things that God has made.
So those people have no excuse at all! They know God, but they do not give him the honor that belongs to him, nor do they thank him. Instead, their thoughts have become complete nonsense, and their empty minds are filled with darkness. They say they are wise, but they are fools…’
Theism
1 One who believes in the existence of a God; especially, one who believes in a personal God; – opposed to atheist.
2 One who believes in the existence of a god, goddess, gods and/or goddesses.
3 One who believes in the existence of a god or gods.
‘Theism is broadly defined as the belief in the existence of at least one deity. In common parlance, or when contrasted with deism, the term often describes the philosophical conception of God that is found in classical theism – or the conception found in monotheism – or deities found in polytheistic religions – or a belief in God or gods without the rejection of revelation, as is characteristic of deism.’
Definition one is biblically supported, whereas points two and three are not, unless one is referring to and intending angelic beings as the ‘gods’ in question.
One would assume that these three ideologies cover everyone on Earth. Yet each one is flawed and lacking in providing the real answers to: ‘where am I’, ‘why am I’ and ‘how do I escape’ my confinement and not to place too fine a point on it, but rather starkly, really ‘my captivity’ – Articles: Principalities & Potentates: What they Want… Who they are; and Floating Sphere or Fixed Circle?
“The difference between a theist and an atheist is the degree to which God has revealed himself to them” – Anonymous
If you are still reading this, you either believe in a spirit world beyond our own – and by extension responsible for our existence (and future) – or simply, you do not.
Regardless, there is a simple answer to why the world is the way it is – a mixture of good and evil – yet it eludes practically all the world’s inhabitants, religious or not. And that is the fact, that the ‘God’ of this world is not the supreme Creator who is the source of all life.
Thus prominent atheists such as Stephen Fry are one hundred percent correct in their view, comments and conclusions regarding ‘God’. For unbeknown to them, they are speaking about and describing in accurate detail the Adversary of the true God – Article: Asherah; and Chapter XXII Alpha & Omega.
A vainglorious, violent, capricious and wicked being who does not have humankind’s interests at heart and who being the source of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Book of Genesis – note evil AND good – rules the Earth in like manner.
And so not only atheists are blinded to this central truth but even religious believers who may comprehend that there is another adversarial ‘God’ (Satan); in turn, do not realise that nearly all the doctrines they believe in and the interpretation of the scriptures they know, derive from them and are false. And so unwittingly, they too are blinded like the atheist by the god of this world and in essence by following erroneous dogma and doctrine are serving and perhaps in worst case scenario, worshipping this dark, evil and false imposter god.
To say this is merely one issue or component in the history (and future) of this world, just might be the biggest understatement in the chronicling of understatements.
In understanding this vital piece of the jigsaw that is the panorama of humankind’s civilisation from time immemorial to the present day, it may be helpful to endeavour to answer or respond to penetrating questions asked by atheists which Christians have difficulty in answering regarding the existence of God – Article: The Creator Criterion.
Similarly, a survey of common arguments put forward by atheists in doubting God’s existence will also be examined.
The springboard for these questions and arguments are found in two articles.
Before we begin it is important the reader remembers that it is the god of this world whom atheists inadvertently are questioning in regard to its omnipotence and its moral behaviour – not the true God.
Perhaps graphically illustrated by the ninth studio album released by Thrash Metal titans Slayer on the auspicious date of September 11, 2001 (Twin Towers “terrorist attack”), titled: God Hates Us All.
Unbeknown to Kerry King who wrote most of the album, the god of which he speaks is not the God everyone thinks it is.
This deception has existed since the beginning. When the Serpent deceived Eve, she thought he was the Lord – Genesis 3:1; 4:1.
Following the death of Christ, Paul as an inroad to introducing Christ and his resurrection from the dead was inspired by a sign he spied in Athens.
Acts 17:22-31 English Standard Version
22 So Paul, standing in the midst of the Areopagus, said:
“Men of Athens, I perceive that in every way you are very religious. 23 For as I passed along and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription:
‘To the unknown god.’
What therefore you worship as unknown, this I proclaim to you.
24 The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in temples made by man, 25 nor is he served by human hands, as though he needed anything, since he himself gives to all mankind life and breath and everything. 26 And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place, 27 that they should seek God, and perhaps feel their way toward him and find him.
Yet he is actually not far from each one of us,
28 for “‘In him we live and move and have our being’; as even some of your own poets have said,
“‘For we are indeed his offspring.’
29 Being then God’s offspring, we ought not to think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and imagination of man. 30 The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent, 31 because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.”
This unknown god is not the entity which Kerry King is referring. Yet in striking irony, it could be paradoxically said that the god he is referring to is also unknown to most of the world.
Both the Adversary and the true God are a mystery only because religion has masked their true identities and believers have not desired to earnestly contend for the true Way taught by Christ and the apostles – Jude 3.
For there is the teaching of Christ and the theology of Paul. A line divides them and Christians choose a side.
Regrettably, the vast majority of people make an uninformed and unwise choice. In this regard, what chance do Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Agnostics and yes Atheists have in finding the true path when even Christianity is also a false religion.
Perhaps most important of all and the crux of why the Serpent deceived Eve, was its intention to try and derail the Creator’s plan for humanity – refer article: DEATH: Dead End or New Beginning?
10 Atheist Arguments That Actually Deserve Our Attention, Julia Davis, March 20, 2026:
“The religious tend to see atheists as sad and lost, while the atheists see them as delusional.”
‘Religion Is a Political Tool’
Yes undoubtedly true.
False religion is used as a political tool. We have catalogued the immense political clout wielded by the Roman Catholic Church over two millennia in a number of articles. The true church of the Way was prophesied to be a ‘little flock’ (Luke 12:32) unencumbered by an unscriptural governmental hierarchy or driven by the pursuit of mammon (and power). Thus, today’s Universal Church is a far cry from what Christ and the apostles established or envisioned.
Does this mean organised religion is to be mistrusted as false? Yes.
But, does it mean God does not exist? No.
Does it mean the Bible is untrue? No.
Does it mean faith is a human invention for control? No.
Whereas religion is about control and division and successfully divides Christians and society.
Is this not a huge red flag to people that there are many thousands of religions in the world, with forty-five thousand Christian denominations alone. They cannot all be right…
The Adversary is the political animal and not God. It is the Adversary which encourages political control, competition, dissension, turmoil and subjugation.
‘Holy Books Are Filled with Violence and Misdeeds’
Julia Davis:
“Atheists often lead with this argument: If religion is truly moral, why are its sacred texts riddled with violence and slavery? Both the Bible and the Quran contain stories of revenge, genocide, and suffering of the innocent that are often supported by holy figures or even by God Himself.
Whether that was the goal or not, these texts are often cited to justify real-world violence. Atheists also point out glaring moral contradictions, and they express concern that these acts are seen as divine commands that we ought to emulate in real life.
Can we even counter this argument?”
Yes, we can.
It does not seem to have occurred to Christians and Atheists alike, that there is a serious dichotomy between the Old and New Testaments in the Bible. Or if they have reasoned as such, in investigating satisfactorily as to the reason why. As we have addressed this subject previously, it will not be laboured here. Suffice to say, there are are two aspects to consider.
Firstly, much was expected, still the physical Israelites continuously acted in a carnal, sinful manner and as unconverted people were subsequently dealt with accordingly – with much blood, betrayal, murder and mayhem. Whereas following Christ’s death, the focus became spiritual Israel adhering to a totally different standard – of peace, forgiveness and love.
Secondly, it appears in certain instances – yet not all – the stand in (adversarial) god of the Old Testament was not the same being as God (the Father) introduced by Christ in the New Testament.
‘Jesus Never Claimed to Be a God’
Davis:
“In Christianity, Jesus is divine [incorrect] and human [correct]; however, many atheists claim that the Gospels don’t explicitly state that He ever claimed to be God [true]. Some scholars argue that the divine status was a later theological addition, not part of His original teachings [true].
This distinction matters because it suggests that the core of Christian faith may have been invented by later followers [true]. If Jesus never personally claimed to be God, then much of Christian doctrine is built on a misinterpretation or a myth [true], and that’s a pretty big argument to consider” – refer article: The Pauline Paradox.
Now in this, atheists are entirely correct as we have already touched upon. Christ was not God and is not God now. Nor was he God while a human on Earth – Article: Arius, Alexander & Athanasius.
God (the Father) is singular and not a Trinity of gods, nor is Christ part of a Trinity. While nearly the entirety of Christendom believes God to be a Trinity it is nevertheless a blatantly false doctrine and a teaching nowhere to be found in the pages of the Bible.
Christ’s role – through his sinless life, death and resurrection – was to mediate a connecting link between humanity and the hitherto unknown God Himself.
‘The Gospels Misquote Jesus’
Admittedly, there are alterations – whether by accident or intention – not just in the Gospels, including words added or omitted, a different word used or meaning ascribed.
Overall, the impact is minimal when compared with other verses on a subject. If one verse stands out in opposition to others, then it is likely suspicious for whatever reason.
For scholars and atheists to use this as an excuse that ‘core stories are unreliable’ and that ‘the entire foundation of the Christian faith becomes shaky’ is an exaggeration. It is a weak attempt to discredit the four gospels overall and the remainder of the Bible.
It is the view of this writer that of all the the books comprising the New Testament Canon, it is the four gospels which are the most reliable – Articles: The Pauline Paradox; and The Sabbath Secrecy.
Logically, it would need to be this way as the words of Christ are the most important to have been committed in writing and oral traditions.
‘The Pagan Roots of Monotheistic Religions’
Davis:
“Many of the stories and symbols in Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have clear parallels to older pagan religions. Sun gods, resurrection myths, flood stories – they all appear in cultures predating these religions.
For instance, the story of a dying and rising god is common in ancient mythologies like Egyptian (Osiris) or Greek (Dionysus).
These similarities suggest that the major religions borrowed from older myths, rebranding them within monotheistic frames. These connections show that these faiths aren’t entirely original or new, but rooted in pre-existing cults and practices.
Atheists often use this argument to ask why we wouldn’t then worship the older Sumerian or Egyptian gods, since they seem to be the blueprint of monotheistic traditions anyway.”
The Adversary has the advantage of not just inside knowledge, but not being governed by physical laws. Therefore it has not been difficult to replicate certain pre-emptive analogous events and inject them into history’s timeline in an attempt to discredit biblical prophecies (later events). The story of the resurrection of Osiris and then later Christ a prime example.
The question surrounding monotheism is not applicable as
a. the existence and worship of one God existed from the very beginning, starting with Abel; and
b. monotheism is not the correct definition for the one true God.
First, it could be argued that all the myths surrounding other gods have stemmed from the unknown God in the first place, not the other way around and second, a more accurate position on God is a Unitarian definition as opposed to a monotheistic one.
Monotheism
The doctrine or belief that there is only one God.
The doctrine or belief that there is but one God.
The belief in a single god (one God); especially within an organised religion.
‘Monotheism is the belief in only one deity, or God. A distinction may be made between exclusive monotheism, in which the one God is a singular existence, and both inclusive and pluriform monotheism, in which multiple gods or godly forms are recognized, but each are postulated as extensions of the same God.’
Unitarianism
The meaning of Unitarian is one who believes that the deity exists only in one person.
‘Unitarianism is a nontrinitarian movement of Christianity, which affirms the unitary nature of God as the singular and unique creator of the universe. Unitarian theology critiques the traditional Christian theology of the Trinity, which regarded God as three distinct but unified beings – transcendent Creator God, human Savior God, and immanent Spiritual God.’
There is one God as defined by monotheism, but God is not a Trinity. So by that definition, the Unitarian view is more accurate. Christ is the Son of God and the Holy Spirit is God’s essence and power. Neither are God.
‘Atheist Countries Tend to Be More Prosperous’
The ancient Israelites were intended to be an example nation, obeying God and reaping the benefits. Yet the periods of obedience were few and far between and hence God’s displeasure with them and ultimately going into captivity – Chapter XXX Judah & Benjamin – the Regal Tribes.
This was readdressed by the promise to Abraham of a future fulfilment of a nation greatly blessed regardless of obedience or not; which would become the most impressive power the world has known. That promise has been fulfilled in the United States of America; predicted to be a company of nations which can be alternatively and correctly rendered a ‘union of states’ – Chapter XXXIII Manasseh & Ephraim – the Birthright Tribes.
The question is asked, ‘if religion were essential for morality and a successful society, wouldn’t religious countries be the most prosperous?’
Davis:
“Data shows that many of the wealthiest nations, like Norway, Sweden, or Japan, are largely secular. These countries tend to have higher standards of living, better education, and more social equality compared to religious societies. In fact, the more religious a country is, the worse its education and living standards seem to be.
Atheists argue that the idea of religion being necessary for progress doesn’t hold up when you look at these facts. Secular nations prove that morality and prosperity can thrive without divine authority, making this argument very compelling in debates.”
This is an interesting though relative non-argument. It may prove that false religion is worse that no religion. It does not prove that no religion is better than true ‘religion.’
The United States in the western world at least, is a fascinating example of being the most (‘non-fanatical’) religious nation in the world. This status has not held it back in any manner. In fact when one understands their biblical identity, the prosperity being afforded to America will continue while the majority of its citizens profess a belief in God and an acknowledgement of Him being the source of their blessings.
‘Our Morality Is Innate’
This argument may be the most important one of all.
Yes, one does not need a religion to be a good person or live by a moral or ethical code.
Atheists are correct that humans have an innate sense of right and wrong and evolutionary psychologists are right that moral instincts (empathy, fairness, cooperation) are built into our biology.
Even animals, particularly mammals can exhibit some of these same traits.
Recall, the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil mentioned earlier. This was when Adam and Eve transitioned from the mind and body offered by God to a mind and body we all possess now.
Thus every human does have a moral compass within them and unless completely psychopathic, understands right from wrong.
Davis:
“The main argument atheists make here is that the very idea that we need divine commandments to be moral is flawed. Morality based on instinct and social cooperation is more flexible and universal than religious rules. Recognizing that morality stems from our nature rather than divine decree challenges the notion that faith is necessary for ethical behavior.”
Atheists are right again. We do not need commandments to be moral, though humans being flawed with a mixture of good and evil in their hearts and minds do require Law.
Agreed, faith is not required for ethical behaviour.
But where faith is required and the mind of a converted person, a true follower of the Way comprehends this deeply, is the requirement to have faith in endeavouring to always choose the right over wrong. This process requires building character so as to have character; thereby choosing more times than not – for no human is perfect – good over evil in our thoughts, deeds and how we treat other people.
When Christ came to the Earth, he overturned the 613 laws, statutes and judgements contained in the first five books of the Old Testament with just two.
This great or royal law is to first love God with all our heart, soul and mind and second, to love other people as we ourselves would like to be treated.
If the world lived by at least the second command (law) what a different world we would all be living in.
‘Jesus Is a Sun Deity’
Davis:
“Many scholars and mythologists see Jesus as an archetype of a Sun god; He dies, then rises again, promising renewal and eternal life. This motif appears across all ancient religions, since every culture celebrated the life-giving Sun. The story of Jesus… mirrors these solar myths, symbolizing the cycle of death and rebirth.
The “light in darkness” theme also neatly fits into this symbolism…[John 8:12]”
This argument is grasping at straws somewhat. Additionally, we have discovered on our journey, outlined in previous articles that if anyone is a sun god, it is not Christ but his arch-nemesis Azazel (probably) or Samael (possibly) – Chapter XXI The Incredible Identity, Origin & Destiny of Nimrod; and Chapter XXII Alpha & Omega.
In scripture, Christ is called a ‘Morning Star’ which is usually equated with the planet Venus, third brightest body in the sky after the Sun and Moon; which appears in the morning before sunrise – Revelation 2:28; 22:16.
If any being could or should be equated as the Sun God, giving life and possessing the power to resurrect it would be God, the Most High. Others may have assumed or striven for a role already originally in existence in the form of the Source of all life.
‘Faith Opposes Critical Thinking’
This is an argument born from those who do not understand or perhaps in essence, do not appreciate what real faith is.
A person with this kind of faith does not believe anything without good cause. The faith that a true follower of the Way possesses is one that has been tested through trials and experiencing answered prayer. These are the evidence of a relationship with God. Concerning beliefs (doctrine), no one should believe anything without evidence, whether biblical or scientific – Acts 17:11. Each complement the other and do not contradict as many assume.
‘Modern Christianity Is a Roman Invention’
Now ain’t that the truth, brother.
This argument runs parallel with ‘Religion is a political tool’.
Christianity is not reflective of Christ, the apostles or the true gospel of the Kingdom of God and was shaped largely by Emperor Constantine for his own selfish motives in stabilising and consolidating the Roman Empire.
Davis:
“He convened the First Council of Nicaea [in 325 CE] and played a major role in defining Christian doctrine, turning it into an instrument of imperial power [Articles: Arius, Alexander & Athanasius; and The Calendar Conspiracy]. Constantine’s conversion was political as much as it was spiritual… [if at all].”
But, which reality?
Hopefully as enlightening to the reader, are the following perceptive yet difficult questions.
10 Questions Atheists Ask That Christians Struggle To Answer, Yvonne Gabriel, March 23, 2026
‘The Problem Of Suffering’
“If God is all good and all-powerful, then why do bad things happen to good people who simply do not deserve such pain? This ancient riddle keeps many awake at night, wondering why a benevolent creator allows heartbreak, disease, and tragedy to run rampant. It is the heavy rock in the shoe of theology that just will not go away, no matter how you adjust your step.
A 2025 Pew Research Center report highlights this disconnect, noting that for every one converted to Christianity, there are now six former Christians walking away. That statistic suggests that for many, the silence of God in the face of suffering is simply too loud to ignore.”
This is a nitty-gritty question which cuts right to the heart and core of why many people – especially those who were once religious – turn to atheism ironically, as a form of comfort. Hoping to escape the mental and emotional anguish in thinking there is a God who is ambivalent about the horrendous suffering inflicted daily on the majority of Earth’s inhabitants. Or worse yet, is the source of the miserable conditions and afflictions besetting humankind.
This writer would also become an agnostic or atheist even, if they thought a loving, merciful Creator had truly orchestrated such a terrible mess.
Of course, this is not what has happened, but rather the ‘god of this world’ is the architect and instigator of a bipolar world, where there is:
joy and agony, happiness and sadness, laughter and tears, kindness and selfishness, patience and anger, forgiveness and hate, healing and murder, life and death.
The Bible reveals that the Adversary was once the closet companion of God. The process of their turning against the Almighty is complex and has been discussed at length – Article: Asherah; and Chapter XXII Alpha & Omega.
While it may seem simplistic to lay the blame at the feet of just one being, the simple answer is… that is the answer.
Readers will be thinking, okay, God isn’t all powerful, all knowing and all present if he could allow a Frankenstein monster of this kind to be created. Yet, that monster fulfils a special purpose.
Humanity is a unique project, whereby the Creator seeks to fashion beings like himself. Angelic beings while termed ‘sons of God’ in the scriptures, have not undergone a demanding process like Christ did.
Jesus accomplished a number of things while a physical being on the Earth.
He overcame the Adversary (1), Sin (2) and Death (3) all while a fragile human who endured everything we do. That included pain, loss (remember, his adoptive father Joseph, died while he was young) and suffering.
This is why humanity has a Saviour who has experienced life like us and thus is not only the perfect mediator to make intercession on our behalf, between us and God, but has qualified to be our (righteous) judge.
Though the most dramatic consequence of his victory over a flawed human state has been to become God’s Son. This has occurred through a process which has resulted in his adoption as the first son of God and is an opportunity made possible by him to be available to those in this life who truly respond to the call to walk in the same Way – Matthew 22:14.
The upside in becoming a son or daughter of God, is living a perfect fulfilling life of happiness with God and Christ… forever.
And there it is.
The real kicker… being given eternal life and becoming immortal.
Think of it from God’s perspective. He cannot have another disaster like the Adversary (Satan) and so the only way to be sure is to put humans through an intense and brutal regime so as to be tested to see if they are wanting to habitually choose good over evil. A person who makes this their number one desire in life, shows God that they are worthy to become part of his family and dwell with Him – always.
‘The Silence Of God’
Yvonne Gabriel:
“If the creator of the universe wanted a relationship with us, why does he seem to be playing the ultimate game of hide and seek? Skeptics argue that a God who wants to save everyone would make his presence undeniable rather than relying on ancient texts and invisible promptings. It feels less like a relationship and more like a one-sided conversation where you are never quite sure if the phone is connected.
Believers often say that God reveals himself to those who seek him, but that answer can feel dismissive to those who have tried and felt nothing. It is difficult to maintain a connection with a being who refuses to show up for coffee or even send a text message confirmation. The ambiguity of his existence is a stumbling block that faith alone often struggles to vault over.”
This is another profound aspect of an atheists opinion:
Where is God?
Unfortunately, it is a truism that God reveals Himself to those who seek Him. If He doesn’t, then giving up doesn’t help at all. God is looking for tenacious people who won’t let go and would rather die than give up on something – Genesis 32:26, Matthew 9:21-22.
Similarly if someone finds it difficult to build or maintain a connection, then they should ask God for the faith required to know Him – Luke 18:8, Hebrews 11:6. God always answers those who genuinely seek Him – Matthew 21:22.
Simply, this is the person God is looking for.
Isaiah 66:2 New English Translation
“I show special favor to the humble and contrite, who respect what I have to say.”
If only people but realised, God is not silent to those who obey Him, only to those who are not being truly honest with Him or themselves. It is not pleasant looking in a mirror and seeing what one really is, but this is a necessity if one wishes to not just talk with God, but walk with him – 1 Corinthians 13:12, Genesis 6:9.
Jeremiah 17:9-10 English Standard Version
‘The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?
“I the Lord search the heart and test the mind, to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his deeds.”
‘Hell And Good People’
Gabriel:
“The idea that a kind, moral person could face eternal torment simply for checking the wrong religious box sits very poorly with modern sensibilities. It seems incredibly harsh to think that Gandhi or your sweet agnostic neighbor might be doomed while a repentant murderer gets a pass. This concept of exclusive salvation feels less like justice and more like a cosmic club with an arbitrary bouncer.”
This is why God judges a person’s heart. If we judge a person, we do not know their whole story or what is really in their mind and truly in their heart. God is fair as people will one day discover.
There is no such thing as Hell as taught by Christianity – Article: Heaven & Hell.
It is an invention of the Roman Catholic Church – Article: The Seven Churches – A Message for the Church of God in the Latter Days.
“Most people instinctively feel that character should count for more than the specific label you wear on your soul [true]. According to a 2025 Pew Research Center survey, 48% of Americans now say that many religions may be true [or rather contain truthful elements], reflecting a major shift away from exclusive dogmas. We are moving toward a view where goodness is recognized regardless of the name you use when you pray.”
There is only one name [Jesus Christ] whereby someone can be saved and one being [God] one should pray to – Acts 4:10-12, Matthew 6:9.
‘Science Versus Genesis’
Gabriel:
“Trying to reconcile the six-day creation story with dinosaurs and carbon dating is a mental gymnastics routine that leaves many exhausted. The scientific consensus on the age of the Earth and evolution is overwhelming, making the literal interpretation of Genesis a hard pill to swallow. For many, choosing between their faith and their high school biology textbook feels like an unfair ultimatum.
While some Christians view the creation story as a metaphor, others insist on a literal reading that clashes directly with modern geology and physics. A Gallup poll found that only 20% of Americans now view the Bible as the literal Word of God, the lowest point on record. This dropping number shows that fewer people are willing to deny visible evidence for the sake of ancient tradition.”
And rightly so.
The Genesis account has been misunderstood. It is not describing literal days but rather ages or epochs. The Earth is far older than creationists recognise and way younger than scientists realise – Appendix IV: An Unconventional Chronology; Chapter XXII Alpha & Omega; and article: Chance Chaos or Designated Design?
There is no mental gymnastics required in reconciling science with the Bible. In fact the Bible is streets ahead of science and continually waits for it to catch up as we have confirmed in a series of articles – Chapter I Noah Antecessor Nulla; articles: The Younger Dryas Stadial: Ending of the Earth… Beginning of the World; and Floating Sphere or Fixed Circle?
“Gods are fragile things, they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense” – Chapman Cohen
‘The Geographic Lottery’
Gabriel:
“If you had been born in India, you would likely be Hindu; if you were born in Tibet, you would almost certainly be Buddhist. This simple fact of geography claims that one religion is the “absolute truth” seems incredibly dependent on your zip code. It raises the uncomfortable suspicion that your faith is less about divine revelation and more about where your parents decided to settle down.
Christians often struggle to explain why a just God would base salvation on a game of geographic chance that billions are destined to lose. It implies that the vast majority of the human population was born in the wrong place at the wrong time. Realizing that your belief system is largely an accident of birth can be a disorienting moment for anyone.”
Ah, Pandora’s Box is open now…
For the truth, as unpalatable as it may be for most to learn, is that God originally worked (primarily) with the physical Israelites (not the Jews – Chapter XXIX Esau: The Thirteenth Tribe) and today works (primarily) with their descendants (Chapter XXX Judah & Benjamin – the Regal Tribes; and Chapter XXXIII Manasseh & Ephraim – the Birthright Tribes) who now form spiritual Israel – Deuteronomy 14:2, James 1:1, Revelation 7:4-8.
Salvation will be opened to all at a later time when the Kingdom of God is established at Christ’s return. This truth has been completely hidden from the world by organised religion and orthodox Christianity.
‘Old Testament Morality’
Gabriel:
“Reading the Old Testament can be a shocking experience, filled with stories of sanctioned slavery, genocide, and harsh retributions that would be illegal today. It is jarring to see the same God who is described as love also commanding armies to wipe out entire civilizations. Trying to square these violent ancient commands with modern ethics is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
Apologists will talk about historical context or a progressive revelation, but those explanations often sound like excuses for behavior we would condemn in any other leader. Skeptics point out that objective morality should not have an expiration date or a cultural loophole. If God is the standard of goodness, his past resume should probably not include war crimes.”
This question parallels the argument previously, ‘Holy Books Are Filled with Violence and Misdeeds’.
There remains a powerful question mark on the identity of the God of the Old Testament in a number of instances.
For no one has seen God (John 6:46) and Christ came to reveal the Father (Luke 10:22).
Richard Dawkins:
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
An important note to clarify is that the command to wipe out certain peoples in Canaan were in reference to evil Nephilim and Elioud giant clans. Not the wholesale genocide of innocent peoples.
‘Unanswered Prayers’
Gabriel:
“You may have heard stories of miraculous healing, but for every success, thousands of prayers seem to hit the ceiling and bounce back. It is heartbreaking to watch faithful people pray fervently for a sick child, only to face the same outcome as those who never prayed at all. The inconsistency makes prayer look less like a direct line to heaven and more like a roll of the dice.
When statistically analyzed, the outcomes for prayed-for patients often look indistinguishable from those without prayer, which is a hard pill to swallow. A 2025 Gallup poll indicates that 59% of Americans believe religion is losing its influence on society, perhaps partly due to this lack of tangible results. When the rubber meets the road, people want to see a vehicle that actually starts.”
This writer rarely speaks on a personal level, though as this question regarding prayer (seventh proof God exists: AnsweredPrayer) is perhaps the most important of all the questions and arguments against
a. God existing and
b. a silent God;
it concerns me deeply that people have to go through the heavy heart rending disappointment of having a prayer (especially for healing for example) seemingly ignored.
There are a number of reasons for this.
This is what has been humbly learned over many years. Like all relationships and friendships they grow deeper the more you talk and… the more you listen.
God speaks to us through his word in the Bible – Proverbs 4:20-21, John 10:27. This is how we get to know Him.
When you talk with God, keep it casual and friendly as if talking to your best friend. While it is natural to make requests of God, imagine it from His side, if all you hear is ‘give me this’ and ‘I need that’.
Try to ask God instead for help in things you are trying to solve, do better in or to overcome. Even better, pray for others. Though the best prayers are like many of King David’s Psalms where he
a. speaks to God about his thoughts, feelings and fears and
b. praises God and gives Him thanks.
It is always gratifying when someone thanks us for a small act of kindness and especially for a selfless act of service. God is no different – Philippians 4:6.
Again, imagine it from His perspective, where He would perhaps feel more fondly towards those who regularly thank Him for their blessings and thus may feel more compelled to answer when they are in genuine distress and trouble.
Further, believers who have their prayers consistently answered have the following traits in common.
They ask in faith (Matthew 21:22); they are righteous in God’s eyes and pray with power (James 5:16); and finally, they pray for God’s will to be done above their own will.
Something Christ taught in the Lord’s Prayer (Matthew 6:10), as well as exhibiting during his final hours before his severe beatings and gruesome death (Luke 22:42) – Appendix VIII: When the Creator came to dwell with His Creation.
Personally, it began as a child, where I started asking God for help. Whether it was a childish trivial matter (in anyone else’s eyes), or a more important situation, I found God answered. Some prayers were not answered immediately and some were answered many years later. But I would have to be honest and admit God has answered every prayer in my life; has never let me down; and always protected me and taken care of my family.
It is very humbling to think our Creator would ever take an interest in anyone who is flawed, vulnerable, weak and shallow in comparison to Himself.
Yet like all good parents, God wants the best for us and the more we rely on Him and acknowledge His saving grace, the more he does for us. It is a living law.
The idea of manifesting items or thanking the universe instead of the Creator are rebellious and inferior counterfeits compared to the real living power of God. If only people trusted their Heavenly Father and gave themselves entirely to Him.
‘Free Will And Omniscience’
Gabriel:
“If God knows everything that will happen before it happens [Matthew 6:8], then your future choices are already set in stone, effectively before you are born. This creates a paradox where you are told you have free will, yet the script has already been written by an all-knowing author. It is like being told you can drive anywhere you want, but the car is on a fixed track at an amusement park.
Theological attempts to explain this away often end up in a dizzying loop of logic that satisfies almost no one. If the ending is already known to the director, then the actors are just going through the motions without any real agency. The tension between being free to choose and being destined to act is a knot that theology cannot quite untie.”
This writer appreciates the exasperation felt by all about this conundrum of how God knows the outcome, but we don’t – Article: Predestination & Free Will.
The best way this writer can explain the interplay between freedom to choose and fate is that this world is like the matrix, an artificial construct, akin to a sophisticated computer program and composed of a physical reality enclosed inside a spiritual one.
So that the laws which govern our reality (three dimensions plus space and time) are different to and subservient to the spiritual laws which govern dimensions four to nine.
And so like a computer game, we may have tens, hundreds, or thousands of different responses to any given situation, so that it appears to us that we have free will, yet all those options to make different choices all lead to the same outcome, of which God is fully aware. So while life is a great mystery to us, it certainly isn’t for those outside the program.
This is why spirit entities can enter and leave our linear timeline at will and as if by magic; knowing the ‘future’ in a way we cannot. This is how Christ was miraculously inserted into our timeline at the precise moment in history he was supposed to be. Every generation had to be worked back from the final one prior to Christ’s second coming (return). This reveals all life has been planned and prepared for (Romans 9:21-22).
Thus, God already knows the hearts of those He calls; that they will heed the call, follow the call and successfully complete the calling given to them.
‘Verification Of Miracles’
True miracle workers keep their work secret. Allied to this in the New Testament and the early church following Christ’s death, miracles were primarily performed on those who invariably underwent a conversion experience at the same time. A flippant or irreverent approach to miracles and healing is not the sign of a true servant of God – Article: Seventh Son of a Seventh Son.
From personal experience, this writer does not know many people who have undergone a miraculous healing or intervention, though they have heard a number of first hand stories claiming such. Closer to home, this writer has witnessed a miraculous healing on themselves and thus is fully convinced miracles do occur.
Apart from having faith, the most important aspect to this question, is who is asking for a miracle and why are they asking one from God. This perhaps answers why there are few genuine miracles witnessed in the world today.
‘One Way To God’
Gabriel:
“The assertion that Jesus is the only way to salvation automatically condemns billions of non-Christians to an eternity without God. This exclusivity is a tough sell in a globalized world where we interact with wonderful people of different faiths every day. It feels incredibly arrogant to claim that your specific group holds the only key to the only door that matters.
Christians often try to soften this by talking about God’s mysterious mercy, but the core text is pretty rigid on the matter. Recent Pew Research data shows that 35% of U.S. adults have switched religions since childhood, often searching for a more inclusive spiritual home. People are voting with their feet, moving away from rigid boundaries and toward a more open horizon.”
It is understood how this is upsetting, yet as we have discussed already, God has chosen who He desires to work with in this life before Christ establishes the Kingdom of God on Earth. It is through Jesus Christ that the way to eternal life is accessed – clear and simple.
Acts 4:10-12 English Standard Version
‘… let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead – by him this man… Jesus… that was rejected by you… And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
There are a number of influential atheists as well as famous celebrities who have embraced atheism. A survey of some and their thoughts might be insightful. While certain ones were to be expected, others were a disappointment to this writer in learning they had accepted atheism as an acceptable explanation for the world in which they have been richly favoured.
Top 10 Atheists Who Changed The World, Jonathon Kantor, 2019 – emphasis mine:
Stephen Hawking – Theoretical Physics
‘Stephen Hawking was one of the most brilliant physicists ever to live, and his work stands on par with that of Einstein… Hawking wrote… The Grand Design, in which he wrote,
“Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist… science can explain the universe, and that we don’t need God to explain why there is something rather than nothing or why the laws of nature are what they are.”
He spent his life working to find the Grand Unified Theory, though it remained unproven during his lifetime.’
Which it will continue to remain beyond scientists grasp to quantify until their acknowledging of a spirit essence and the spiritual dimensions beyond our own – Article: The Truly Big Questions.
There is reasonable doubt about the theory of gravity* and whether it is in fact correct – Article: Floating Sphere or Fixed Circle?
Maybe we don’t ‘need’ God to explain our world and solar system but nor can we ignore God as the source of all of it either.
Hawking:
“It is my view [so he does not know] that the simplest explanation [it would actually be the most complicated] is there is no God. No one created the universe and no one directs our fate [so we are rudderless and out of control. God help us, no pun intended].
This leads me to a profound realization [how ironic, when it is God who is truly profound]. There is probably [he is still unsure] no heaven, and no afterlife either.
We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe [so he admits to the universe having design. Which is the fifth proof of God’s existence: Design and the myriad intricate patterns within the Universe at the macro cosmos level or at the micro sub-atomic level demand a Designer and inventor – refer article: Chance Chaos or Designated Design?], and for that, I am extremely grateful.”
Thomas Edison – Inventor
Jonathon Kantor:
‘Thomas Edison was one of the most prolific inventors of his time… well known for being the father of the modern incandescent bulb, the phonograph, motion picture camera, and many more incredible inventions that are still in use.
Edison once said,
“So far as religion is concerned, it’s a damned fake [true]. Religion is all bunk.” He also suggested that all religions were created by men [true], and that “All Bibles are man-made [partly true, some more than others].”
… he was certainly not a traditional believer, at least where any established religion was concerned. That being said, he could have had a personal belief in some form of supernatural deity or another, but he clearly had no time for others’ beliefs in a personal god or afterlife. If he were to be labeled as anything, he might be better described as a pantheist, which is a belief that equates all of reality with divinity.’
If so, then equating reality with divinity is admitting physical existence (‘reality’) originates from a spiritual source. Not very atheistic.
Albert Einstein – Theoretical Physics
Kantor:
‘Albert Einstein’s beliefs have been the subject of debate for decades, which leaves many to refer to his own words on the subject, of which there are few. Einstein declared himself an agnostic, and specifically said in an interview in 1929, “I am not an atheist.”
He also said he didn’t believe in life after death, once claiming that “one life is enough for me.”
Well, Einstein is in for a surprise and might change his tune when he realises eternity is on the line – Article: DEATH: Dead End or New Beginning?
Kantor:
‘His theories on Relativity have been tested and proven[?] time and time again, and they make it possible to predict gravitational interactions… especially useful in determining how to navigate in spaceflight[?], learning how stars and planets form, and pretty much anything to do with space, time, or gravity.*
Karl Marx – Philosopher
Kantor:
‘Karl Marx is widely revered in many parts of the world due to his writings, which established the modern concepts of Communism [that went well, not (past)], Socialism [no good will come of it (future)], Historical Materialism, and Marxism. His work influenced that of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and many others who became dictators [great result, not]…
Marx… argued that a society without social classes would enable all men to be free, working together to achieve for the common good of humanity. Unfortunately, his writing has never been tested [nor will they ever be] in the manner he theorized, as modern undertakings of Socialism and Communism perverted his desire for a classless society.
Marx was an avowed atheist, and he didn’t just disbelieve in gods, he opposed the worship of them [correct, for these ‘gods’ would not be the true God].’
Sigmund Freud – Psychiatry
‘The famous founding father of psychoanalysis described himself as an anti-theist. He considered God a fantasy. In his earliest writing about religion, Freud suggests that religion and neurosis are similar products of the human mind.’
Andrei Sakharov – Nuclear Scientist Alan Turing – Polymath J. Robert Oppenheimer – Theoretical Physics Oliver Sacks – Scientist
Isaac Asimov
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.”
Douglas Adams (refer article: 42)
The argument goes something like this: “I refuse to prove that I exist,” says God, “for proof denies faith, and without faith Iam [“you are”] nothing.”
John Steinbeck Kurt Vonnegut
Penn Jillete Teller
Britney Spears
Stanley Kubrick Orson Welles
Brad Pitt
‘… BILD magazine asked him if he believes in God, Brad just smiled and said, “No, no, no!”
‘Pitt has described his spiritual stance as oscillating between agnosticism and atheism.’
Jodie Foster
“… I absolutely love religions and the rituals. Even though I don’t believe in god, we celebrate pretty much every religion in our family with the kids.”
Daniel Radcliffe
‘The actor has identified himself as a militant atheist in various interviews.’
Cillian Murphy
‘Murphy admires the complexity of the universe without attributing it to a creator.’
Hugh Grant
‘He has mentioned in interviews that he is an atheist. Grant does not believe in fate or divine intervention in his life. He attributes his success to luck and hard work rather than blessings. The actor maintains a cynical but humorous outlook on life and spirituality.’
James McAvoy
‘James McAvoy… was raised Catholic but has stated that he no longer holds those beliefs. McAvoy identifies as an atheist and jokes about his lack of faith. He believes in kindness and empathy without a religious motivation.’
Jude Law
‘Jude Law… has stated that he has never been a believer in God. Law finds the concept of religion interesting but not personally convincing. The actor approaches life with curiosity but without a need for supernatural answers.’
Daniel Day-Lewis
‘Daniel Day-Lewis… has described himself as agnostic but leans heavily toward a non-religious worldview. Day-Lewis does not practice any religion… The actor retired from the screen without ever attributing his success to a higher power.’
George Clooney
‘George Clooney… was raised Catholic but has stated that he does not believe in Heaven or Hell. Clooney identifies as agnostic or atheist depending on the interview. He focuses his immense influence on human rights and political activism. The actor believes in accountability to one another rather than to a deity.’
Ian McKellen
‘He has been an open atheist for many years and frequently discusses his secular worldview. McKellen often advocates for rational thinking and human rights without religious influence. He believes that morality is derived from human empathy rather than scripture. The actor remains a powerful voice for… secular values.’
Stellan Skarsgеrd
‘Stellan Skarsgård… is a vocal critic of religion and has written articles defending secularism. Skarsgård raised his children without religious indoctrination and encouraged them to think for themselves. He believes that religion often causes more conflict than peace in the world. The actor remains a staunch advocate for a society based on reason.’
Alexander Skarsgеrd Keanu Reeves Kevin Bacon Hugh Laurie Paul Giamatti John Malkovich Joaquin Phoenix Jack Black Tom Roth Clive Owen Brian Cox Christopher Eccleston Viggo Mortensen Guy Pearce Rowan Atkinson Sean Penn Simon Pegg Larry David
Billy Connolly
‘Billy Connolly… has been an atheist for his entire adult life and often jokes about religion. Connolly believes that nature and the universe are enough to inspire awe. He rejects the idea of a judgmental deity watching over him. The comedian finds humor and beauty in the absurdity of existence.’
Ricky Gervais
‘Ricky Gervais… is perhaps one of the most vocal atheists in the entertainment industry today. Gervais frequently uses his platform to challenge religious dogmas through humor and logic. He advocates for science and critical thinking as the best tools for understanding the universe. The entertainer often engages in public discourse regarding the separation of church and state.’
“I don’t need a god.”
Ricky Gervais may be in for a rude awakening one day, when God replies:
“I don’t need you Ricky.”
“I don’t believe in God because there is absolutely no scientific evidence for his existence…”
Apart from the complex structure and beauty of galaxies, stars, planets, the Earth, precious stones, water, plant life, insects, reptiles, birds, mammals, humans, sex, reproduction, birth, the human body, the eye, the mind, emotions… ad infinitum.
“The existence of God is not subjective [agreed, it is objective*]. He either exists or he doesn’t. It’s not a matter of opinion. You can have your own opinions. But you can’t have your own facts” [the facts* are the natural world and the laws which underpin it] – Article: The Creator Criterion.
Stephen Fry
‘Stephen Fry… is a prominent humanist and atheist who has debated religion on numerous public platforms. Fry argues that the existence of suffering in the world makes the concept of a benevolent god illogical. He champions education and curiosity as the keys to a fulfilling life. The actor uses his intellect and wit to promote secular values globally.’
Gay Bryne (The Meaning of Life):
“Suppose it’s all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God. What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?”
Fry:
“I’d say, bone cancer in children? What’s that about? How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It’s not right, it’s utterly, utterly evil. Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That’s what I would say. ”
Bryne:
“And you think you are going to get in, like that?”
Fry:
“But I wouldn’t want to. I wouldn’t want to get in on his terms. They are wrong.
So, atheism isn’t not just about not believing there’s a God, but on the assumption there is one, what kind of God is he?”
Stephen Fry unknowingly hits the nail on the head.
Yes, what kind of god indeed has the current over lordship of this world? One which is coming to an end perhaps a few centuries from now, for Christ has qualified to rule in their place and establish God’s kingdom on the Earth – Article: The Seven Churches – A Message for the Church of God in the Latter Days.
One point worth highlighting is disease and the suffering which accompanies it. Bone cancer in children is provocative, though an investigation into the causes of illness reveals that it is mankind who is responsible for the world’s evils.
Diet is the main contributing factor in most of the modern diseases which afflict humanity, including heart disease, cancer and dementia. Food is riddled with chemicals and meat and dairy for example, with steroids and hormones. Each of which are to blame for the soaring rise in cancer particularly of the prostrate, testes, ovaries and breasts.
On a lighter note, the thought has occurred to this writer that an atheist is a theist with a letter ‘a’ added (a + theist = atheist)
It is extraordinary how a whole (minority yet growing) section of society should be identified with a word that is predominantly comprised of the very thing they decry, deny – and so oft – despise and detest.
If this writer were an atheist they surely would not be content with this tag at all.
Though there is no small irony in a label which defines someone who has willingly (stemming invariably from intellectual vanity) constrained their mind within a paradigm subset of something that is beyond themselves literally and figuratively.
A final thought:
Our common affliction as a species is that we take our lives for granted, we live selfish lives and then we die.
Yet our life was given to us by God.
Why would we not want to thank Him for every breath we take during our fleeting time on Earth. Would any sane person not want to get to know the One who has the power over life and death; and if there was a way to escape eternal death and gain immortal life, would not everyone want to sign up for that program? It seems very few wish to do that.
What about you sincere reader?
Is there anything more important to do with your time than getting to know your Maker and becoming immortal with Him?
Stop fooling yourselves. If you count yourself above average in intelligence, as judged by this world’s standards, you had better put this all aside and be a fool rather than let it hold you back from the true wisdom from above. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God… God uses man’s own brilliance to trap him; he stumbles over his own “wisdom” and falls… the Lord knows full well how the human mind reasons and how foolish and futile it is.
I Corinthians 3:18-20 Living Bible
The unbeliever does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him. And he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. The one who is spiritual discerns all things, yet he himself is understood by no one. For… we have the mind of Christ.
1 Corinthians 2:14-16 New English Translation
“No one is more dangerous than someone who thinks he has “The Truth”. To be an atheist is almost as arrogant as to be a fundamentalist.”
Tom Lehrer
“If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him as less of an insult than religion.”
While comments are welcome if they are constructive…
… they are not so much if the person has not even read the article and then makes an asinine assumption.
For example, Club Schadenfreude – meaning “malicious joy” or “gloating” in relation to ‘self-satisfaction that comes from learning of the troubles, failures, pain, suffering, or humiliation of another’ (vile, evil choice of name) – even before the whole article was uploaded.
Go figure?
Their comment (and website) has not served to show atheists in a better light, but regrettably has only confirmed a stereotype of an intellectually arrogant, embittered individual with a large axe to grind.
My “imaginary friend” is the same one who helped David defeat Goliath…
One wonders what triggers someone to waste their time relentlessly attacking something they don’t even believe in – Article: TheCreator Criterion.
At the end of the day, there are always two sides to any debate and one is correct and the other isn’t. In this instance of whether there is a God or not, one side is right and one side is not. What can be said with surety is that when He does reveal Himself to all, one side is going to be a lot more surprised (and concerned) than the other.
The Trinitarian view of the Godhead was first imposed on Christianity in 325 CE at the Council of Nicea, with an initial Binitarian definition and then cemented in 381 CE, at the Council of Constantinople, with the addition of the Holy Ghost as a person. It is a confusing doctrine for it is concocted by men in error and not drawn from the simplicity of the scriptures or founded on truth. This new view – for Christianity, though actually an ancient idea – of the Godhead is, in paraphrased terms:
A unity of a singular Deity, composed of three co-eternal, yet distinct identities
The doctrine is convoluted, serpentine and cannot be supported by the Bible, hard as people endeavour to twist it. It willingly misinterprets and mis-understands, the uniqueness of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The concept of a triune of gods was not new. A Queen of Heaven as a Mother of God reaches back into the annals of time, way farther than the beginning of humankind. This is why Christ’s mother Mary, has been elevated to Mother of God status – the real Trinity of the Universal Church – hidden in plain sight, in the shadow of the Trinity doctrine, but no less foisted on unsuspecting believers.
Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz were a triad in ancient Babylon. In Egypt it was Osiris, Isis and Horus and in Mesopotamia, Anu, Enlil and Ea [Enki]. Hinduism has Brahma, Shivu and Vishnu and even Plato taught of an Unknown Father, Logos and a World Soul. In Greece, there was Zeus, Athena and Apollo (or Zeus, Poseidon and Pluto); and in Rome, the most well known trio of Jupiter, Juno and Minerva, though just one triad of a myriad believed by the ancient Romans. There is the triad of Al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Manat in the time of Muhammed; the Lugus – Esus, Toutatis and Taranis – in Celtic mythology and the Saha Realm in Mahayana Buddhism: Shakyamuni, Avalokitesvara and Ksitigarbha. The Three Pure Ones of Taoism, Fu, Lu and Shou and the Hooded Spirits of the Gauls, to name literally just a few.
Let no one persuade the reader that a trinity is unique to Christianity, that it is Bible based or that it was taught by Christ and the apostles in the early church.
Bishop’s Encylopedia of Religion, Society and Philosophy aptly describes the Arian controversy – emphasis mine.
‘The Arian controversy began in Alexandria when its bishop, Alexander (250-326), clashed with the presbyter Arius (256-336) over matters of theology’ – refer Arius, article: The Seven Churches – A Message for the Church of God in the Latter Days.
“Although the points debated were many, the main issue at stake was whether the Logos, the Word of God, was coeternal with God. The phrase that eventually became the Arian motto, “there was when He was not,” aptly focuses on the point at issue. Alexander held that the Word existed eternally with the Father; Arius argued that the Word was not coeternal with the Father.”
‘Whereas Alexander believed in the divinity of the Word, Arius, although accepting the preexistence of the Word, claimed that the Word was not God, but the first of all creatures created by God. But in Alexander’s view, the Word was divine and therefore could not be created. It is coeternal with the Father.
Arius argued that Alexander’s view entailed a denial of monotheism. In Alexander’s view, there were two who were divine, and thus there were two gods. Alexander countered that Arius’s position denied the divinity of the Word and therefore the divinity of the Son. He also saw how Arius’s view had grave consequences for the Church’s worship of Jesus by suggesting that it had been worshiping a creature.
In 325 CE, the bishops gathered in Nicea in what would become known as the First Ecumenical Council. There was a small group of Arians led by the bishop Eusebius of Nicomedia (d. 341). Arius himself was not a bishop so could not sit in the council and Eusebius of Nicomedia had to represent him and his theology. The Arian position was… opposed by another small group of bishops, led by Alexander… One of Alexander’s followers was the deacon Athanasius of Alexandria (c. 296-373) who, while not permitted to sit in the council, would become a leading defender of Nicene orthodoxy against Arianism.
A creed was agreed upon that presented the views of the council that deliberately excluded Arianism. Constantine, either by his own accord or through his ecclesiastical advisor Hosius of Cordoba, suggested that the word homoousios (“of the same substance”) be included in the creed showing that the Son is just as divine as the Father.’
“We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of all things visible and invisible. And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the only-begotten of the Father, that is, from the substance of the Father, God of God, light of light, true God of true God, begotten, not made, of one substance with the Father, through whom all things were made, both in heaven and on earth, who for us humans and for our salvation descended and became incarnate, becoming human, suffered and rose again on the third day… But those who say that there was when He was not, and that before being begotten He was not, or that He came from that which is not, or that the Son of God is of a different substance (hypostasis) or essence (ousia), or that He is created, or mutable, these the Catholic church anathematizes.”
The pivotal fulcrum of the debate about God, is not the nature of the Ancient of Days, but rather the Son of Man, with two key central points. First, was he a created being, or had he lived forever with the Almighty? Second, was he divine while on earth as Jesus Christ or was he fully human? This is where people have become extremely confused, with the debate raging for seventeen centuries. It is remarkably, still just as significant even in our present materialistic age, judging by forums like Quora. Yet, the Bible is very clear and the answer is simple to understand on both points.
Christ’s servant Apollos (refer article: The Sabbath Secrecy) explains in his letter to the Hebrews – that is, the true peoples descended from the sons of Jacob.
‘Since therefore the children [humanity] share in flesh and blood, he [Christ] himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one [Satan] who has the power of death, that is, the devil, and deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong slavery… Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect, so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. For because he himself has suffered when tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted’ – Hebrews 2:14–18, English Standard Version.
In order for the Messiah to be the Saviour, he had to become fully human, just like us. Apollos says ‘in every respect.’ That meant he felt pain, psychological and physical. He got sick, had to repress sinful thoughts and control negative emotions like depression and wrath – Isaiah 53:1–12. He also had to fight the greatest temptation, sexual sin. Here lies the key, Deity cannot be tempted.
Christ could only fulfil the role of the Saviour as a human being. Therefore, he was not a deity or God. If he had been, it would have been an unfair fight against Satan the adversary. It still had to be an unfair fight, though in the Devil’s favour, because Christ was human. As a mortal, Christ was still the son of God and worthy of respect – John 13:13.
‘And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed – John 17:3–5, ESV.
When Christ fulfilled his mission here on Earth, he returned to the glory he had previously at the right hand of the Almighty. Revelation 1.14–15 describes the Son. It is remarkably similar to a description of the Father. Though it is obvious they are two separate entities, who each have their own throne.
In Daniel 7:9-10, New English Translation:
“While I was watching, thrones were set up, and the Ancient of Days took his seat. His attire was white like snow; the hair of his head was like lamb’s wool. His throne was ablaze with fire and its wheels were all aflame. A river of fire [the Holy Spirit] was streaming forth and proceeding from his presence.”
The Ancient of Days can be translated as Ancient One, Eternal God and the One who had been living forever. The Son of Man is not described similarly. The Eternal is the only being who had life inherent in Himself and is the source of all life – Acts 17:23–24. Notice the Holy Spirit being described as issuing forth from the Ancient of Days. One can call it a ghost to help make it sound like an individual but it is non-biblical, with no scriptural support.
The Arian view, upheld by the Goths for centuries, simply held that the Holy Spirit and Christ were not God, like the Father. Rather, the Father is the one true God; Christ his begotten, created son; and the Holy Spirit, God’s divine essence and being, as well as His power with which He simultaneously creates and upholds the creation – 1 Timothy 1:17, Revelation 3:14, Acts 1:8.
A verse which has added to the confusion regarding the nature of the Godhead is John 1:1. It has been translated in English to support the Trinitarian doctrine and represent Christ as one and the same as God; whereas in the original Greek it is actually saying that after God reasoned and thought, He spoke… and His Word came into existence.
‘In the beginning was the Word [G3056 – logos], andthe Word was with [G4314 – pros] God, and [G2532 – kai] the [G3588 – ho]Word was [G2258 – en] God [G2316 – Theos].’
In English the verse says the Word existed with God from the beginning – that is with no beginning – and was [the same as] God.
The word logos means: to ‘reason’ or ‘calculate, think’ and ‘speak, to command, to call by name.’ The word pros means: ‘near’ or ‘towards, above’ and ‘before.’ The word en means: ‘to be, to exist, to happen.’
The Interlinear shows the Greek to say in English, at the end of verse one: ‘… and God was the Word.’ In Greek it is ‘… kai Theos en ho logos.’ Not that the Word was God.
A paraphrased rendering of verse one to three:
‘One of the first things the mind of God thought, He spoke… and his Word, that had always been part of Him, came into existence to fulfil all of His creation.’
It is by God’s spoken Word that the creation came into existence.
Psalm 33:6-9, The Voice:
‘The unfathomable cosmos came into being at the word of the Eternal’s imagination [Wisdom], a solitary voice in endless darkness. The breath of His mouth whispered the sea of stars [Angels] into existence. He gathers every drop of every ocean as in a jar, securing the ocean depths as His watery treasure. Let all people stand in awe of the Eternal; let every man, woman, and child live in wonder of Him. For He spoke, and all things came into being. A single command from His lips, and all creation obeyed and stood its ground.’
The Voice of God is the Building Block of the Universe, Genesis and Genetics, 2022:
‘One can model a human voice mathematically by the expression e^kt where e is 2.718 (base of the natural logarithm), k is an imaginary number, and t is time. Amazingly, we now know that the function e^kt can describe everything in the universe since everything is a wave. Thousands of years ago the Bible proclaimed that God spoke the creation into existence’ – Appendix IV An Unconventional Chronology.
God converted his voice (energy) into mass (the creation). Quantum physics tells us that quantum waves create everything we see. God’s voice produced waves that have the ability to become quantum particles. These waves continue to vibrate forever. The quantum waves never die out because they are too small to be affected by friction. One might say they are eternal. Therefore, God’s Word and voice are the same.’
Now, in the Book of Jude written by the half-brother of Christ (Article: The Pauline Paradox), we are admonished to: “contend for the faith that was once delivered to the saints.”
Even during the lives of the apostles, a mere twenty years after the Messiah’s death the true faith was being thwarted.
‘For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work’ – 2 Thessalonians 2:7, ESV.
In the letter to the church of the Colossians, the author speaks of another mystery: ‘the mystery hidden for ages and generations but now revealed to his saints. To them God chose to make known how great… are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ…’ – Colossians 1:26-27. And, what is the mystery of Christ?
‘[Christ] is the image [G1504 eikon: likeness] of the invisible God, the firstborn [G4416 prototokos] of all creation. For by him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities – all things were created through him and for him. And he is before [G4253 pro: in front of, prior]all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church.He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent.’ – Colossians 1:15-18.
The highlighted phrases in this passage of scripture all equal the same thing. That is, the Son of Man is not just the first or beginning of God’s plan figuratively or preeminently, he is literally, first of the creation. Christ as the image of the Eternal One, is a wholly separate yet near identical being. We will look at the Greek word for beginning shortly, though the main word of interest is firstborn. The word prototokos means: ‘the firstborn of all creation’ the ‘first begotten’ “literally and figuratively” according to Strongs Concordance.
In the letter to the Colossians the author mentions the church at Laodicea – more than once, for emphasis.
“For I want you to know how great a struggle I have for you and for those at Laodicea and for all who have not seen me face to face… to reach… the… full… understanding and the knowledge of God’s mystery, which is Christ,in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. I say this in order that no one may delude you with plausible arguments [like the Trinity]” – Colossians 2:1-4 ESV.
The writer of the epistle had apparently not met the church at Colossae or Laodicea. Epaphras had been sent to teach the Colossians and Laodiceans – Colossians 1:7; 4:12-13. It goes on to state:
“Give my greetings to the brothers at Laodicea, and to Nympha and the church in her house. And when this letter has been read among you, have it also read in the church of the Laodiceans; and see that you also read the letter from Laodicea” – Colossians 4:15-16.
We do not have the original letter to the Laodiceans. We can guess that it is important to be mentioned, though it may well have been similar to the letter to the Colossians and therefore we are not missing anything relevant. The prevalent school of thought by a number of biblical scholars is that the Book of Ephesians is actually the Laodicean letter. What is highly pertinent though, is that there is another letter written to the Laodiceans recorded by the Apostle John and inspired by the Word.
It is immensely revealing that the final message to the body of Christ, the church in the latter days, speaks of the nature of Christ in the very first sentence, revealing his created status. While in the next breath, counsels Christians to anoint their eyes so that they may see.
“And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation.’
The Greek word for beginning is G746 – arche, meaning: ‘origin, first.’ It is ‘the person or thing that commences, the first person or thing in a series, the leader.’ Though not just in rank or place, it also connotes order and time.
The Greek word for creationis more telling. It is G2937 – ktisis, meaning: ‘the act of founding, establishing, building’ and ‘anything created.’ It applies to a ‘being that is a creature, who is a creation.’
“For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked* [exposed as Adam and Eve were, 1 Peter 5:5, 8]. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire [the Day of the Lord], so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness* may not be seen, and salve [the Holy Spirit] to anoint your eyes, so that you may see. Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent.”
The church in the end times is self-righteous, for it is encumbered with much knowledge; yet little understanding – Article: The Seven Churches – A Message for the Church of God in the Latter Days. The nature of Christ is forefront in this final warning letter. Proverbs 29:18 KJV says: ‘Where there is no vision, the people perish.’ The Laodiceans like the Colossians, are reminded of the nature of Christ and the truth of this mystery.
‘For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man [G444 anthropos] Christ Jesus’ – 1 Timothy 2:5.
This is a pivotal verse, as it clearly shows there is only one God and how the Son – who is different from the Father – has the ordained role of serving the Father and humankind in bringing them ultimately together. The Greek word for man is anthropos and means ‘a human being’. It confirms that the Messiah was fully human while on the Earth.
John continues in the Laodicean letter, with the words of the Son of Man, just prior to his return:
“Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me. The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says…” – Revelation 3:14–22 ESV.
Do you see… do you hear?
Edited excerpt from Chapter XV The Philistines: Latino-Hispano America and also in answer to questions posed on Quora:
Casluh and Caphtor are listed as Mizraim’s sixth and seventh sons. We touched on in the previous chapter the debate amongst scholars about which son the Philistines descend from. That is, where the parenthesis should be. Some advocate where it is, after Casluh and others say it should be placed following Caphtor.
Genesis 10:14
English Standard Version
‘Pathrusim, Casluhim (from whom the Philistines came), and Caphtorim.’
We have already learned that there is some pairing of sorts, for the brothers from Mizra with the Lud-im and Lehab; and with Anam and Naphtuh. It is worth considering the same situation for Casluh and Caphtor. The additional information that they were now called Philistines undoubtedly has been added to the Bible verse.
One explanation is that the sons of Caphtor ostensibly lived on the island of the same name. Casluh also migrated to Caphtor now known as Crete and together they left and settled on the southern coast of Canaan, which eventually became known as Palestine derived from the word Philistine.
Additionally, Casluh migrated to Caphtor (Crete) and in time – his descendants in the plural rather than merely a son in the singular – became know as the Caphtorim.
Another possibility, the one favoured and hence the parentheses, is that Casluh is the father of Caphtor. Thus, one could say Casluh as the father of Caphtor, is the father of the Philistines. By this reasoning Caphtor is not described as the father of the Philstines… for he was the Philistines.
The Interlinear says:
‘And Pathrusim, Casluhim out whom came Philistim [the Pelishites or inhabitants of Pelesheth].’
The Hebrew word is H3318 – yatsa’, translated by the KJV as out, 518 times; forth, 411 times; come, 24 times; and proceed, 16 times. It means ‘to come out, go forth’ and ‘begotten, grow’ and ‘shoot forth.’
This writer’s suggestion for Genesis 10:14 to make it clear would be:
Casluh the father of Caphtor (from whom the Philistines came).
There are no verses for Casluh outside of Genesis ten and 1 Chronicles one. There are a couple or so pertaining to Caphtor – whereas all other scriptures use the word Philistine. An indication that the Philistines are in part, from Caphtor – the son of Casluh and – the grandson of Mizra. In part, as the explanation of the Philistine identity is complex and we will discuss it further in a moment.
Deuteronomy 2:23
English Standard Version
‘As for the Avvim [a clan of Nephilim], who lived in villages as far as Gaza, the Caphtorim, who came from Caphtor, destroyed them and settled in their place.’
In the Book of Jasher 10:21-23, we have extra detail on Mizra’s sons:
21 ‘And the children of Mitzraim are the Ludim, Anamim, Lehabim, Naphtuchim, Pathrusim, Casluchim and Caphturim, seven families. 22 All these dwell by the river Sihor, that is the brook of Egypt, and they built themselves cities and called them after their own names.
23 And the children of Pathros and Casloch intermarried together, and from them went forth the Pelishtim, the Azathim, and the Gerarim, the Githim and the Ekronim, in all five families; these also built themselves cities, and they called their cities after the names of their fathers unto this day.’
Three bear resemblance to the three of the five major branches or city-states of the Philistines listed in the Bible and located in the lower southwest coast of Canaan:
Ashdod; Ashkelon; Gaza or Azath; Ekron; and Gath or Gith.
Gerar was another city of the Philistines and it was this city where Abraham and later his son Isaac visited its king, Abimelech – refer Chapter XXVII Abraham & Keturah – Benelux & Scandinavia; and Chapter XXVIII The True Identity & Origin of Germany & Austria – Ishmael & Hagar.
Pelisht looks a little like Pereth. The Book of Jasher supports the contention that Casluh is the progenitor of Caphtor, the founder of the Philistines.
The Philistines were the remnants of the ancient Minoan civilisation on Crete. A disaster forced the majority to migrate to the already established colony on the southern coast of Canaan during the same time frame the Israelites fled Egypt and were later subduing the land of Canaan.
‘The Casluhim are listed among the descendants of Mizraim… (Genesis 10:14, 1 Chronicles 1:2). They are also named as the ancestors of the Philistines and the Caphtorim…
The etymology of this name is uncertain. Jones’ Dictionary of Old Testament Proper Names cites Jerome and reads Their Boundary Protected. Fuerst’s Hebrew & Chaldee lexicon to the Old Testament assumes relations with cognate words ks meaning mountain, and lh meaning to lighten burn, shine, make dry. The whole name would mean Dry, Barren Mountain. To a Hebrew audience, however, the dominant segment, which comprises the initial part of the name, looks a lot like the verb (kasal), meaning to be foolish…
The verb (kasal) means to have no skeletal strength or engage in pareidolia (falsely recognising images in random patterns…) or a “belief” in the systematic link between uncorrelated events. Nouns (kesel) and (kisla) mean stupidity or (misplaced) confidence. Noun (kesil)… is also the word forstellar constellations in general, and more specific the constellation Orion’ – Article: The Pyramid Perplexity.
‘Since all other meanings are deeply hidden, to a Hebrew audience the name Casluhim must have sounded similar to either Orionites or Bunch Of [Fools].
And if that isn’t bad enough, the segment (salah) is a common verb that means to forgive or pardon; this verb always describes God’s forgiving of man. Together with the particle (ke), as if, like, the name would also mean As If They Forgive, or As If They Were Forgiven, which seems to express a doubt and doesn’t sound very positive; the Casluhim are the Fools. Another name that may have to do with the constellation Orion is that of the mysterious race of the Nephilim’ – Chapter XXII Alpha & Omega; and articles: Nephilim & Elioud Giants I & II.
‘The Torah explains that Caphtor is the land of the Caphtorim, who descended from Mizraim… (Genesis 10:4), which is to say that the ancient culture of Egypt radiated its science and technology and ignited an independent derivative culture, on the north and eastern coasts of the Mediterranean, long prior to the emergence of the Phoenicians (and note that Luke places a harbor named Phoenix on Crete: Acts 27:12).
These Caphtorim appear to have displaced several earlier cultures, among which the Avvim (Deuteronomy 2:23), but somewhere along the line the Caphtorim culture itself came under pressure of others. Through the prophet Amos YHWH declared that he brought up the Philistines from Caphtor, and through Jeremiah that the Philistines emerged as a separate derivative culture from a remnant of Caphtor.
At that time this remnant of Caphtor appears to have been concentrated on an island (the noun ‘i refers to a coast region: coast, capes and islands off the coast). Most commentators seem to favor Crete as the last stronghold of the Caphtorim, which would make the Philistines displaced survivors of the Minoan culture. The Minoans had maintained a highly advanced civilization from the 4th millennium BCE, which had absorbed much of Egypt’s culture and which in turn had radiated its own identity to the Greek and Canaan coasts. After a series of natural calamities and attacks by Hittites and probably others, the Minoan culture began to decline halfway [through] the 2nd millennium BCE. Around 1200 BCE, the Minoan culture had been eradicated from the island.
It seems reasonable to expect that certain Minoan refugees began to seek refuge with their old business partners. Right around the time that the Minoan culture came to an end, Egyptian records begin to make mention of the Philistines in their realm, and the distinct Philistine identity may very well have come about when waves of late-Minoan refugees overwhelmed native Canaanite tribes.
The name Caphtor is most likely a loan word from the Minoan language to indicate Minoan Cretans. Consequentially, this word, (kaptor), came to indicate the capital on top of a pillar, named after Crete as the place from which they were first imported (Amos 9:1) or knob of bulb as seen on the Menorah in the tabernacle (Exodus 25:33). But, because the Caphtorim appear so early in the Book of Genesis, the name should also have some Hebrew connection.
Hence some commentators recognize the root group (kapar): The verb (kapar) describes the formation of any sort of protective perimeter around any sort of vulnerable interior… The renowned theologian Gesenius… proposed that the name Caphtor could be seen as the superimposition of two three-letter roots, namely (kapar)and [the verb] (katar),meaning to surround: Noun (keter) means crown. Noun… (koteret)… denotes the capital of a pillar. The final part of the name bears strong resemblance to the word (tur), to explore or survey, and derivation (tor), dove.’
We will learn that all these definitions have merit and application.
Sons of Ham: Part III Mizraim, Christian Churches of God – emphasis mine:
‘This “son” [Casluh] of Mizraim was the forefather of one of the more notable of the tribes, namely the Philistines… The name Casluhim (SHD 3695, kasluchiym) means fortified and is of foreign derivation. The brief entry for these people in the ISBE reads: Casluhim – an unknown people – or, according to [the] Septuagint, of the Casmanim, which would mean “shavers of the head” – a custom of the Phoenicians (forbidden to Hebrews as a rule)…
The term Caphtorim means crowns (SHD 3732, kaphtoriy) from Caphtor (3731)… They are called Gapthoriim in the Septuagint. Capthor first appears in the Akkadian texts as Kaptara, where it was described as beyond the Upper Sea and within the sphere of influence of Sargon of Akkad. References to Kaptara are found in the 18th century BCE Mari economic archives and in texts in both Akkadian and Ugaritic in Ugarit where it is kptr… The Egyptians refer to a place as Keftiu (kftywor kftiw) from what Egyptologists date as 2200 down to 1200 BCE.
Egyptologists generally accept that keftiu is the Egyptian form of Kaftara/Caphtor and it is clear from all contexts that it is Crete that is being mentioned.
It has been suggested that this tribe was in fact a son of the Casluhim (and thus a grandson of Mizraim… The ISBE provides several theories on the identity of this group, the first one considered the most likely.
1. Crete:
The country and people whence came the Philistines (Genesis 10:14 = 1 Chronicles 1:12 (here the clause “whence went forth the Philistines” should, probably come after Caphtorim); [Deuteronomy 2:23; Jeremiah 47:4; Amos 9:7). Jeremiah…] calls it an “island”; there is evidence of [an] ancient connection between Crete and Philistia; and the Philistines are called Cherethites, which may mean Cretans…
These considerations have led many to identify Caphtor with the important island of Crete. It should be noted, however, that the word ‘i, used by Jeremiah, denotes not only “isle,” but also “coastland.”
2. Phoenicia:
Ebers (Aegypten und die Bucher Moses, 130 ff) thought that Caphtor represented the Egyptian Kaft-ur, holding that Kaft was the Egyptian name for the colonies of Phoenicians in the Delta, extended to cover the Phoenicians in the north and their colonies. Kaft-ur, therefore, would mean “Greater Phoenicia.” But the discovery of Kaptar among the names of countries conquered by Ptolemy Auletes in an inscription on the Temple of Kom Ombo is fatal to this theory.
3. Cilicia:
A third theory would identify Caphtor with the Kafto of the Egyptian inscriptions. As early as the time of Thotmes III the inhabitants of this land, the Kafti, are mentioned in the records. In the trilingual inscription of Canopus the name is rendered in Greek by Phoinike, “Phoenicia.” This seems to be an error, as the Kafti portrayed on the monuments have no features in common with the Semites. They certainly represent a western type.’
This raises a pointed coincidence, as we shall learn that the Philistines and the Phoenicians from Tyre are entwined geographically, culturally, linguistically and in large part, ethnically – refer Chapter XXIII Aram & Tyre: Spain, Portugal & Brazil.
This leads to an important realisation in that the Philistines are composed from a lesser people of Hamitic descent and another greater people descending from in fact Shem.
This was not obvious initially for the information provided in Genesis chapter ten only provides detail on the Mizraim component of the Philistines. We learn from other passages that the Philistines are – for the want of a better term – a mongrel people. Yet the truth of this mixture did not become fully apparent until paternal Y-DNA Haplogroups – in tandem with autosomal DNA – proved the reality of the heterogeneous origin of the Philistines.
This is not embraced or understood amongst biblical identity researchers.
Herman Hoeh in The Origin of the Nations, 1957, adhered to the widely held yet incorrect interpretation of who the Philistines are today:
‘The main body of non-Jewish inhabitants of Palestine today are not Canaanites, but Philistines! The Philistines, who came from Mizraim, inhabited Southern Palestine even in the days of Abraham (Genesis 21:34). They are still there today – in the Gaza strip in Palestine – causing no end of trouble (Zechariah 9:6-7)’ – refer Chapter XIV Mizra: North Africa & Arabia.
Scientific findings contradict a (solely) Hamitic origin for the Philistines.
Oema, The Philistines were likely of Greek origin, according to new DNA evidence:
‘… the investigation provided tangible evidence that… [the Philistines] were not only related to the Ancient Greeks, but may have been their descendants.
According to DNA found in a large mass grave of Philistines, the tribe was proven not to be indigenous, but they had migrated to the area of today’s Middle East… from southern Europe and probably the Aegean…
The genetic findings came from skeletons discovered by archaeologists in Israel in 2016, including the bones of newborns buried under Philistine homes.
“Our study showed for the first time that the Philistines migrated to this area in the 12th century BC”, said Daniel Master, director of the Leon Levy mission to Ashkelon, a coastal city where the first Philistine cemetery was found.
The Ashkelon team sent more than 100 skeletal specimens to the German Max Planck Institute for the Science of Anthropological History. The DNA was found in ten people, especially in the bones of the inner ear.’
Ancient Philistines Were Likely of Greek Origin, DNA Study Shows, Philip Chrysopoulos, 2025:
A groundbreaking 2019 genetic study showed that the genes of the buried belong to a European gene pool unlike the Semitic Levantine gene pool of later inhabitants of the area. According to scientists, there was a European-related gene flow that took place during the transition from the Bronze to the Iron Age, which supports the theory that Europeans migrated to the Middle East.
The study specifically states:
“An international team, led by scientists from the Max Planck Institiute for the Science of Human History and the Leon Levy Expedition, retrieved and analyzed, for the first time, genome-wide data from people who lived during the Bronze and Iron Age (~3,600-2,800 years ago) in the ancient port city of Ashkelon, one of the core Philistine cities during the Iron Age. The team found that a European derived ancestry was introduced in Ashkelon around the time of the Philistines’ estimated arrival, suggesting that ancestors of the Philistines migrated across the Mediterranean, reaching Ashkelon by the early Iron Age.”
The National Geographic report says that the DNA analysis from human remains covered three different time periods.
The periods of these burials include the Middle and Late Bronze Age (about 1650 to 1200 BC), thus pre-dating the arrival of the Philistines, while infant burials have been determined to have been from the late 1100 BC following the arrival of the Philistines. Finally, there are also individuals that were buried in the Philistine cemetery in the later Iron Age (hence from the 10th and 9th centuries BC).
The early Iron Age DNA samples include proportionally more “additional European ancestry” in their genetic signature – at roughly 14 percent – than in the pre-Philistine Bronze Age samples, which were 2 to 9 percent.
While the origins of the European genes are inconclusive, experts have determined that they were most likely from Greece, Crete, Sardinia, or the Iberian peninsula.
Many researchers also tie the presence of the Philistines to the exploits of the Sea Peoples, tribes that raided the eastern Mediterranean at the end of the Late Bronze Age in the 13th century and early 12th century BC. This supports the theory that the Philistines, who were possibly Greek, embarked on their journey from Europe as migrants and then settled down in Ashkelon in the 12th century BC.
The arrival of the Philistines in the early 12th century BC is marked by pottery resembling that of the ancient Greek world, as well as the use of an Aegean script and a notable consumption of pork. Archaeologists agree that the Philistines were unlike their Hebrew neighbors…’
Additional evidence for the Grecian origin (and ethnicity) of the Philistines:
The Philistines today, comprise the peoples of Latino and Latina descent in Spanish Central and South America.
The article: Y-DNA Adam & mtDNA Eve:The Genesis and Evolution of Homo sapiens is not a definitive study by any stretch and is very much a work in progress. Still, it seeks to address this issue as well as others which have come to this writer’s attention when revising individual chapters.
The most pressing point to arise is one concerning the Philistines. Though the Bible cryptically states they came forth from Mizra’s son Casluh (Genesis 10:14) – who may or may not have been the father of Caphtor – with Caphtor being synonymous with ancient Crete; the likelihood exists that while the Philistines dwelt on Crete, their bloodline is predominantly from Shem’s son Aram – Chapter XXIII Aram & Tyre: Spain, Portugal & Brazil.
The evidence for this is in the paternal Haplogroup R1b, the dominant group in Latino-Hispano American men. If the Philistines were principally descended from Mizra and akin to Arabs or Berbers; the dominating paternal Haplogroup would be either J1, (and J2) or E1b1b. Though with that said, these Haplogroups are invariably the next most frequently exhibited after R1b, with sometimes the exception of Haplogroup Q represented by the Amerindian demographic of the Americas. Therefore, the information provided in verse fourteen in Genesis chapter ten is only partially about ethnic lineage; for it is really revealing a geographical history.
For the remainder of this chapter, any reference to the Philistines, incorporates Casluh – and or Caphtor – from Mizra; as well as Aram, the youngest son of Shem. This current chapter would now more accurately follow the chapter about Aram. Though as Mizra’s descendants are included – even if as a minority – there is a case to leave it in the present order. Therefore, it is recommended that this chapter is read in conjunction with not only Chapter XIV Mizra: North Africa & Arabia but also Chapter XXIII Aram & Tyre: Spain, Portugal & Brazil.
Abarim Publications – emphasis mine:
‘Philistine Meaning:
Griever, Burrower, Weakner.
From the verb (palash), to burrow or to grieve loudly.
The Philistines were an immigrant people who lived under five kings in six Canaanite cities or regions: Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Gath, Ekron and Avva (Joshua 13:3, Judges 3:3). They dominated the region during the reign of [King] Saul [from 1025-1010 BCE] (1 Samuel 13:19), and even defeated him on mount Gilboa, killed his sons and drove him to suicide (1 Samuel 31:6).
The Philistines were subdued and decimated by king David [1010-970 BCE] (2 Samuel 8:1), most famously in the valley of Elah where David killed Goliath of Gath, and it should be noted that the name Goliath doesn’t mean giant but refugee (1 Samuel 17:51). By the time of [King] Solomon [970-930 BCE], the Philistine cities had been largely destroyed or annexed by Israel although pockets of Philistine populations appear to have perpetuated until the time of Hezekiah (2 Kings 18:8). The ultimate end came for the Philistine culture when they were taken to Babylon… A related tribe, the Cherethites, who were possibly a rejected class of the Philistines, had even worked their way up into David’s military elite… (2 Samuel 20:7).
… the Minoan culture… invented a writing system that remains undeciphered to this day, called Linear A… the Philistines emerged from the Minoan civilization of Crete (Caphtorim), which in turn had emerged from a class of Egyptian dreamer-astronomers (Casluhim). The Minoan civilization lasted for three millennia but ultimately [grew] weak and petered out and was displaced by Mycenaeans from mainland [Greece]. This social pressure caused by an influx of Mycenaeans from the north probably caused waves of Minoan refugees toward the south.
The name Philistine comes from the verb (palash), which originally described the digging of burrows in river banks by rodents such as rats. By doing so, these creatures weaken the shore and may ultimately cause it to collapse. In Hebrew… this verb came to denote the verbal expression of intense grief brought about by a sudden destruction:
The verb (palash) mostly means to roll around in ashes or dust due to intense grief. In cognate languages it describes the digging of tunnels or burrows.
The ethnonym (Philistine) occurs predominantly in reference to Goliath of Gath (1 Samuel 17) and his descendants (2 Samuel 21). The proper plural, (Philistines), occurs all over the Bible, but in two cases a special plural, (Philistinians) is used: 1 Chronicles 14:10 and Amos 9:7… noun (pura) denotes a winepress, which is a synonym of (gat), from whence comes the name Gath: The verb (parar) means to split, divide and usually make more, expand or multiply… (pa’ar) means to branch out or to glorify. Verb (para) means to bear fruit or befruitful.
The name Cherethites: ‘Cretans, Outcasts’ from the name Crete, in turn from the verb (karat), to round up and cut off. In 2 Samuel 15:18, the Cherethites are mentioned along [with] the Pelethites but also the Gittites, who were Philistine refugees from Gath, as all three groups joined David on his flight from Absolam.
By the time Sheba of Bichri of Benjamin tries to ignite a rebellion against David, the Cherethites and Pelethites are mentioned along [with] general Joab and the elite Mighty Men as they set out to deal with Sheba (2 Samuel 20:7). In the aftermath of this crisis it becomes clear that the Cherethites and Pelethites are now choice warriors and Benaiah is their general (20:23)… the prophet Ezekiel… proclaimed the Cherethites doomed, and confirms their origin among the Philistines (Ezekiel 25:16). And since the Philistines themselves originate from Crete, the Cherethites are Cretans. The word “cretin” describes a fool or deficient person and is officially of unclear origin but it doubtlessly also relates to our verb (karat).’
The words Cretan and Philistine have very similar meaning.
Cretan:
‘a native or inhabitant of Crete. A person considered to be foolish or unintelligent.’
Whereas Philistine means:
‘a person who is lacking in, or hostile, or smugly indifferent to cultural values, intellectual pursuits and aesthetic refinement, or is contentedly commonplace in ideas and tastes.’
Abarim:
‘The civilization of Crete was one of the most advanced… in antiquity, which is probably due to the same reason why Holland [Chapter XXVII Abraham & Keturah – Benelux & Scandinavia] became so successful in the 17th century and the United States of America in the 20th [Chapter XXXIII Manasseh & Ephraim – the Birthright Tribes]. It’s because these nations absorbed all the rejects of other nations, which created a huge diversity of people who were desperate to improve their lives.’
The countries located in Central and South America are mixed race nations to a very high degree with populations containing Amerindians (1), refer Chapter III Tiras the Amerindian; imported Black slaves (2), refer Chapter XII Canaan & Africa; peoples of Spanish descent including the Hamitic Philistines (3) descended from Casluh (and Caphtor); and those similarly of Spanish descent (in greater numbers), including those who are fairer complexioned and lighter skinned (4) – refer Chapter XXIII Aram & Tyre: Spain, Portugal & Brazil.
Abarim:
‘The name Pelethites derives from the name Peleth, which, quite fittingly is of unclear origin. It may come from an otherwise unused verb that would be spelled (palat), and which exists in Arabic with the meaning of to flee or be swift. It may also derive from the Hebrew verb (pala), to be distinguished or separated: Verb (napal) means to fall (down, down to, into or upon). The plural form (napalim) literally means ‘fallen ones’ [like the Nephilim linked to the Avv (or Avva) displaced by the Philistines – refer articles: Nephilim & Elioud Giants I & II] ‘settled ones.’ Noun (nepel) refers to an abortion or untimely birth. The Pelethites were obviously Special Forces…‘
Map of Central America and the Caribbean, including Cuba and Haiti with the Dominican Republic; as well as one of Crete below. Cuba was where Columbus first arrived, thinking he was in Asia. The colonising of Cuba began first, then the Americas. Comparing the shape of the islands of Crete and Cuba, they are similar, though Cuba is some ten times bigger. Certainly, Cuba has been a modern type and fulfilment for the island of Caphtor.
Sons of Ham: Part III Mizraim, Christian Churches of God – emphasis mine:
‘[The Philistines] are among the most frequently mentioned people in the Bible. Their control and influence in the Mediterranean was such that it was once referred to as the “sea of the Philistines” (Exodus 23:31). The Hebrew term for them is Pelishtiy (SHD 6430, meaning immigrants), a patrial from Pelesheth or Philistia, the land of sojourners.
In his ISBE entry, C.R. Conder seems convinced that the Philistines were a Semitic rather than a Hamitic people.
“The Philistines were an uncircumcised people inhabiting the shore plain between Gezer and Gaza in Southwestern Palestine… Besides these personal names, and those of the cities of Philistia which are all Semitic, we have the title given to Philistine lords, ceren, which Septuagint renders “satrap” and “ruler,” and which probably comes from a Semitic root meaning “to command.” It constantly applies to the rulers of Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Gath and Ekron, the 5 chief cities of Philistia.”
The understandable confusion arises, for even today, the Latino-Hispano peoples though speaking a European Latin* language, Spanish; incorporate a Hamitic peoples descended from Ham through Mizra.
‘The fact that the Philistines were uncircumcised does not prove that they were not a Semitic people. Herodotus (ii.104) says that the Phoenicians acknowledged that they took this custom from the Egyptians, and the Arabs according to this passage were still uncircumcised, nor is it known that this was a custom of the Babylonians and Assyrians.
The Septuagint translators of the Pentateuch always render the name Phulistieim, and this also is found in 8 passages of Joshua and Judges, but in the later books the name is translated as meaning “strangers” throughout, because they were not the first inhabitants of Philistia…
In the Tell el-Amarna Letters we have also (about 1480 BC) letters from chiefs subject to Amenophis III at Joppa, Ashkelon, Gezer, Lachish and Keilah which show us a Semitic population, not only by the language of these letters, but also by the names of the writers.
In the case of Ashkelon especially the Semitic rulers are found to have worshipped Dagon; and, though the name “Philistine” does not occur, the race was clearly the same found by the Assyrians in 800 BC in the land of Palastan beside the Great Sea. (ISBE)”
It must be remembered that in 1480 BCE the Exodus [1446 BCE] had not yet occurred… The Canaanites and Amorites were still in occupation and their language was identical with Hebrew and derived from the Akkadian, Sumerian and Amorite north – yet clearly they were not Semites.
It is thus of no surprise that the Hamitic Philistines used the Canaanite forms in communication with them…*
The Philistines were accomplished and feared warriors. In one particular battle in the Bible, they were able to put 30,000 chariots, 6000 horsemen and innumerable troops into the field (1 Samuel 13:5). And, along with the Ammonites, the Philistines were used directly by God to punish Israel (Judges 10:7). Other nations were also given the same task at various times, namely the Egyptians, Amorites, Zidonians, Maonites (from Moab and Ammon) and Amalekites (verses 11-12). However, the arrogance or pride of the Philistines, perhaps in their pre-eminent military power, was condemned in Zechariah 9:6.
In a number of scriptures we see King David accompanied by a bodyguard of Cherethites and Pelethites, which most commentators agree were clans of the Philistines… The ISBE article gives a view contrary to the accepted one regarding these people as mercenary bodyguards to a king of Israel.
“The real explanation of these various words for soldiers seems simple; and David – being a very popular king – is not likely to have needed foreign mercenaries; while the Philistines, whom he had so repeatedly smitten, were very unlikely to have formed trusty guards. The word “Cherethi” (kerethi) means a “smiter” or a “destroyer,” and “Pelethi” (pelethi) means “a swift one” or “pursuer.”… Evidently we have here two classes of troops – as among the Romans – the heavier regiment of “destroyers,” or “stabbers, “being armed with swords, daggers or spears; while the “swift ones” or “runners” pursued the defeated foe… The Pelethi or “pursuers” may have been “runners” on foot, but perhaps more probably mounted on camels, or on horses like the later Assyrians; for in the time of Solomon (I Kings 4:28) horses and riding camels were in use – the former for chariots.”
It seems unlikely that these are merely different classes of troops, as the nation (or people: Hebrew goyim) of Cherethites is mentioned prophetically in Zephaniah 2:5; and the taking of bodyguards from among other nations, including former enemies, is not as unusual as it might appear. As one example, Pharaoh Amenophis IV (Akhenaton) is said to have employed Syrians [Arameans], Libyans [Phut] and Nubians [Cush] in his bodyguard. In fact, kings were often in more danger from their own countrymen and close associates than from (former) foreign enemies. King Elah of Israel, for instance, was killed by his own chariot commander.
In 2 Samuel 15:18, the Cherethites and Pelethites were included with 600 Gittites from the Philistine city of Gath (the home of Goliath) in putting Solomon on King David’s mule and accompanying him as a declaration of his kingship. We thus have the remarkable situation of Cherethites and Pelethites remaining faithful to the ordained kings of Israel – both David and Solomon – in contrast to such men as the normally loyal priest Abiathar, who uncharacteristically sided with Adonijah against David’s approved successor, Solomon. This example may be typical of Gentiles brought into Israel displaying greater loyalty and valuing their ‘citizenship’ more highly than many native-born Israelites.
Ironically, the land of the Philistines was also seen as a place of refuge on several occasions [as Mexico is today. There is even an expression in the United States when on the run: “Gone South”]. Isaac went to Abimelech (meaning Father-king: apparently an official title, as with Pharaoh of Egypt) in Philistia when famine was threatening the land of Canaan (Genesis 26:1). Similarly, the Shunemite woman was sent to Philistia by Elisha to escape the seven-year famine in Israel (2 Kings 8:1-3). And even David, former scourge of the Philistines, sought refuge in the city of Gath when pursued by Saul (1 Samuel 27:1-2).
In 1 Samuel 6, we see that while they held the Ark of the Covenant, the Philistines were given the chance for salvation – but they did not take it’ – refer article: The Ark of God.
‘In consequence, they effectively invited the plagues of Egypt upon themselves… In the time of the Judges, Israel experienced 40 years of peace under Gideon (Judges 8:28) [from 1184 to 1144 BCE], followed by 40 years of grief under the Philistine yoke as purposed by God [lasting from 1086 to 1046 BCE], until Samson was raised up [during 1066 to 1046 BCE] to deliver Israel’ – Judges 13:1.
A selection of verses from the over two hundred references to the Philistines – and eleven for the Cherethites – including some of the principal and traditional enemies of the sons of Jacob.
Ezekiel 30:5
Bible in Basic English
‘Ethiopia [Cush] and Put [Pakistan] and Lud [Iran] and all the mixed people and Libya and the children of the land of the Cherethites will all be put to death with them by the sword.’
2 Samuel 15:18
English Standard Version
‘And all his servants passed by him, and all the Cherethites, and all the Pelethites, and all the six hundred Gittites who had followed [David] from Gath, passed on before the king.’
2 Samuel 8:12
English Standard Version
‘… from Edom, Moab, the Ammonites, the Philistines, Amalek, and from the spoil of Hadadezer the son of Rehob, king of Zobah.’
Jeremiah 25:19-20
English Standard Version
‘Pharaoh king of Egypt, his servants, his officials, all his people, and all the mixed tribes among them; all the kings of the land of Uz [Aram] and all the kings of the land of the Philistines (Ashkelon, Gaza, Ekron, and the remnant of Ashdod)…’
Jeremiah 47:4
English Standard Version
‘… because of the day that is coming to destroy all the Philistines, to cut off from Tyre and Sidon every helper that remains. For the Lord is destroying the Philistines, the remnant of the coastland [or isle] of Caphtor.’
Ezekiel 25:16
English Standard Version
‘… therefore thus says the Lord God, Behold, I will stretch out my hand against the Philistines, and I will cut off the Cherethites and destroy the rest of the seacoast.’
Amos 1:8
New English Translation
“I will remove the ruler from Ashdod, the one who holds the royal scepter from Ashkelon. I will strike Ekron with my hand; the rest of the Philistines will also die.” The Sovereign Lord has spoken!
Zechariah 9:5-7
Expanded Bible
‘The city of Ashkelon will see it and be afraid. The people of Gaza will shake with fear, and the people of Ekron will lose hope. No king will be left in Gaza, and no one will live in Ashkelon anymore. Foreigners will live in Ashdod, and I will destroy the pride of the Philistines.
I will stop them from drinking blood and from eating forbidden food [a reference to the Giants who ruled amongst them and their cannibalistic habits]. Those left alive will belong to God. They will be leaders in Judah, and Ekron will become like the Jebusites.’
Joshua 11:22
English Standard Version
‘There was none of the Anakim [Elioud giants] left in the land of the people of Israel. Only in Gaza, in Gath, and in Ashdod did some remain.’
Joshua 15:45-47
English Standard Version
‘Ekron, with its towns and its villages; from Ekron to the sea, all that were by the side of Ashdod, with their villages. Ashdod, its towns and its villages; Gaza, its towns and its villages; to the Brook of Egypt, and the Great Sea with its coastline.’
2 Samuel 1:20
English Standard Version
‘Tell it not in Gath, publish it not in the streets of Ashkelon, lest the daughters of the Philistines rejoice, lest the daughters of the uncircumcised exult.’
Jeremiah 47:5
New Century Version
‘The people from the city of Gaza will be sad and shave their heads. The people from the city of Ashkelon will be made silent. Those left alive from the valley, how long will you cut yourselves?’
Wall reliefs, such as in the temple of Karnak indicate a major influx of the Philistines arriving in southern Canaan from Crete possibly shortly after the fall of Troy, circa 1185 to 1180 BCE. The Judge Deborah witnessed the arrival of the Philistines, during her forty years of peace, beginning in 1184 BCE.
The Philistines established themselves in southern Israel’s coast, but did not start oppressing the tribe of Judah until 1086 BCE, the year of Samson’s birth. Samson battled the Philistines (Judges 13:1) from when he turned twenty until his death and the destruction of the main Philistine temple palace in 1046 BCE – Article: Samson.
It would not be until the time of David (1010-970 BCE) that the Philistines were fully subdued. By 604 BCE the Philistine state, after having been subjugated for centuries by Assyria, was finally destroyed by the Chaldean king, Nebuchadnezzar II from Babylon. After becoming part of the Neo-Babylonian Empire and its successor the Medo-Persian Empire, the Philistines seemingly vanish from the historical record by the late fifth century BCE.
Abraham and Chedorlaomer Chronological, Historical and Archaeological Evidence, Gerard Gertoux – emphasis & bold mine :
‘Philistines in the time of Abraham are they Anachronistic?
The Philistines (pelisti) are mentioned for the first time in the Great inscription of Ramses III, year 8 (1185 BCE), among the list of Sea Peoples. Amenemope’s Onomasticon (c. 1100 BCE) then locates the Philistines (p-w-l-y-s3-ti) in Ahsdod, Ashkelon, Gaza, and [Ekron?] This massive influx of Philistines in the southern coastal plain of the Levant is mentioned 23 years before they annexed the land of Israel (1162-1122). According to Justinus (Philippics Histories XVIII:3:5), the Sidonians had already pushed back the Philistine ships one year prior to the Trojan War (1186 BCE).
On the walls of Medinet Habu pirates from the Sea Peoples appear with plumed helmets while a Philistine chief is wearing a kind of beret. Emergence of the Philistines in Palestine is concomitant in Israelite and Egyptian chronologies. However, this synchronism is problematic because, according to the Bible (Deuteronomy 2:23, Jeremiah 47:4, Amos 9:7), the Philistines who came from Crete (Caphtor) were already settled in this region (c. 2000 BCE) in the time of Abraham (Genesis 21:32-34).
These Philistines associated with the Sea Peoples, were therefore installed in their ancient colonies before dominating the Israelites. If biblical research experts agree that the Philistines were from Crete (the system of their confederation of five tyrants inspired by Aegeans, for example, differed from surrounding Canaanite kingdoms), the Akkadian Kaptaru or Egyptian Keftiu, they consider however their mention in the Bible prior to Ramses III as an anachronism. In fact, the translation of the Egyptian word Keftiu, “those of Crete/Cretans” instead of “Crete”, not only solves many paradoxes in Egyptian data, but also confirms the great antiquity of the Philistines, which the Egyptians called, in accordance with their origin:
Cretans from islands in the middle of the [Mediterranean] sea (= the Minoans, at that time).
The term Philistia appeared during the 22nd dynasty… The Philistine cities of Ashkelon and Ekron are already mentioned in the execration texts (dated c. 1950) and archaeologicalexcavations have shown that the Philistine city of Gerar (Tel Haror), cited in Genesis 26:1, flourished in the period 2000-1550 BCE. In addition, Crete was never a vassal of Egypt as was the case of southern Palestine (between 1530 and 1350 BCE). As noted Vercoutter the final w in the word Keftiu (k-f-ti-w) is abnormal (plural marker) but can be explained linguistically since the Akkadian name kaptaru “Crete” corresponds to the Egyptian k-f-ti-[r] with a disappearance of the final r. Thus keftiu can be translated as “those of Kaphto[r]” which refers to Cretans in an ethnic way, not geographic…
… the Treasury of Tod (discovered in Upper Egypt) enclosed in 4 chests bearing the cartouche of Pharaoh Amenemhat II (1901–1863) [1593-1558 BCE] contains 153 silver cups of Minoan manufacturing. These findings show that trade with Crete began prior to 2000 BCE [?] and mainly concerned the exchange of metal (and of precious materials). Mesopotamia imported mainly Cretan tin and Cypriot copper to make bronze while Egypt favoured Cretan vases including silver rhytons.
A letter (EA 114) sent by Rib-Hadda, mayor of Byblos, to his suzerain, Pharaoh Amenhotep III (1383–1345) [877-840 BCE], confirms the crucial role of this port city, as well as the cities of Tyre, Beirut and Sidon, for ships transporting from Cyprus to Egypt. Thus the Egyptians of that time considered “those of Crete” (Keftiu), that they rubbed shoulders with in “Philistia”, were coming from these “islands in the middle of the sea (Crete)” with which they traded. Knossos must have been the main focus exporter, at least until 1370 BCE (date of the destruction of the palace at Knossos).
To sum up, until 1370 BCE, the Egyptians had relations with Cretans who were living in the islands in the middle of the sea (Minoans in Crete) mainly through those who were residing in their colony of Palestine (Philistines). This extraterritorial extension of Crete explains the paradoxes concerning the location of Keftiu and the representation of its inhabitants.
The term Keftiu signifying Aegean figures (Minoans from Crete) in the tomb of Rekhmire (c. 1450 BCE) also appears in tombs of Menkheperreseneb (TT86) and Amenemhab (TT85), but here this term signifies Syrian figures (Philistines), some of which carry Aegean objects. The earliest iconographical hybrid with Aegean elements is known from the tomb of Puimre (TT39). The figure from the scene with four foreign princes in the tomb of Puimre shares elements in skin colour and hair style of Aegean figures and clothes of Syrian figures. Greek historians provide some information that illuminate the ethnic origin of the Philistines.
According to Homer:
Amid the vast sea is the beautiful and fruitful island of Crete thousands of men live, and 90 cities are enclosed in this country, where people speak different languages. Amidst this country stands the city of Knossos, where Minos reigned for 9 years (Odyssey XIX:173-177).
Plato confirms this tradition on the primacy of Cretans (Laws I:1). A scholion on this passage says that the epithet of Zeus Pelasgikos was also read as Pelastikos.
Pelasgians were originally called Pelastians from which derives the name Philistines [Palestine]
(The words pelagos “high seas”, pelasgoi* (pélas-koi) “seamen” and pelastoi “philistines” are close).
Chronological reconstruction of Philistia:
Around 2000 BCE, massive departure of Pelastians (former Philistines), a migratory ethnicity of Crete, towards Palestine (from whom it owes its name). Founding of sale counters at Ashkelon and Ekron (maybe also Ahsdod, Gaza and Gat[h]). “Philistia”is perceived by the Egyptians as a province of the Minoan kingdom. About 1930 BCE, Abraham met Abimelech [1878 BCE], a Canaanite [Philistine] king in Philistine territory (east of Gaza) and Phicol (Indo-European name), his army commander. Abimelech gave to Sarah 11 kilos of silver (Genesis 20:16), a rare metal in Palestine but abundant in Crete. Circa 1530 BCE [rather five hundred years later], expulsion of the Hyksos. “Philistia” is perceived as a Cretan principality that became vassal of Egypt. According to the biblical text, the Philistines were experts in the art of forging (Judges 1:18-19, 1 Samuel 13:19).
Circa 1185 BCE, Philistines associated with Sea Peoples [had] revolted unsuccessfully against Egypt. Philistia is now called by the Egyptians according to its ethnic origin (Philistines) and not according to its geographical origin (Cretans). It became a province subordinate to Israel. The name Goliath was close to the Lydian name Alyattes and to the name written ‘LWT on an inscription (dated c. 900 BCE) found at Tel es-Safi (Gath?)’ – refer Goliath: Chapter XXX Judah & Benjamin – the Regal Tribes.
‘Circa 800 BCE, Adad-nerari III [811-783 BCE] attacked Philistia (Palastu) which became, despite several harshly repressed revolts, a vassal country of the Assyrian empire. In 604 BCE Nebuchadnezzar II destroyed Ashkelon, which would then be attached to Tyr. The province of Philistia was integrated into the Babylonian empire and lost all autonomy.
Archaeologists have long believed that the Aegeans representations in Egyptian tombs fell more under artistic convention than historical accuracy. This negative bias, as for biblical data on Crete and Philistines, has since been refuted by a thorough analysis of all these representations. The first trade links between Egypt and the Aegean world could even go up to 2400 BCE because there was discovered on the island of Cythera, a glass in marble on behalf of the Solar Temple Userkaf. These trips could possibly have been by sea because a boat with about twenty sailors on board (Egyptian and Phoenician) was represented on the walls of the mortuary temple of King Sahureat Abusir. As the history of Philistines is only beginning to emerge we cannot use its shortcomings to discredit the biblical data, which are further confirmed by archaeological discoveries.’
It isn’t imperative to understand the exact identity of the five (to eight) branches – specifically, the five principal cities – and who they equate to today. Prophetic verses are aimed at the ‘Philistines’, which in the main, refer to Mexico as the leading economic and military power of Spanish speaking Central America and South America.
The Philistines were frequent and dangerous enemies of the sons of Jacob. The exceptional warriors of Chereth and Pereth, with the Gittites of Gath are invariably grouped together.
Ashdod, Ashkelon and Gaza appear to be possibly preeminent, in that they are mentioned more often than either Gath and Ekron.
Separating the Central and South American nations into potentially five groups, results in:
a. Argentina – with Uruguay and Chile.
Argentina’s population is 45,939,466 people. Argentina in English comes from Spanish, though the word is actually Italian, argentino meaning ‘[made] of silver’
b. the smaller nations of Central America and the Caribbean, with Guatemala being the largest with 18,618,630 people
c. Colombia – and Venezuela. Colombia has a population of 53,733,299 people
d. the nations southwards; with Peru the most prominent and sporting a population of 34,781,423 people and
e. Mexico, with a population of 132,565,494 people – the 11th highest in the world.
Ashkelon in Hebrew means: ‘I shall be weighed’ or ‘the Fire of Infamy.’
Ashdod means ‘powerful’ and
Gaza means ‘strong.’
Gath means ‘winepress’,
Chereth means ‘destroyer, smiter’ and ‘outcast’ while
‘Peleth means ‘pursuer, swift; or ‘separated.’
Ekron means ‘extermination, too pluck’ or ‘root up.’
These definitions are powerful and ominous. Assigning a name to a grouping is conjecture at this moment in time without further research.
What is significant, is that the combined population of these nineteen countries is approximately 420 million people. Their future allegiance with Tyre (Brazil) will prove to be a formidable economic and military bloc – refer Chapter XXIII Aram & Tyre: Spain, Portugal & Brazil.
This number is similar to the 450 million constituting Mizra’s offspring in North Africa and the Middle East.
Another similarity, is that as the Arab people are predominately Islamic, invariably exhibiting a high level of zealousness; the same can be said for their literal and figurative brothers in Roman Catholic Latin America, who are equally as ardent.
Bob Thiel:
‘According to the detailed Pew multi-country survey in 2014, 69% of the Latin American population is Roman Catholic and 90% claim some type of Christianity (Religion in Latin America: Widespread Change in a Historically Catholic Region).’
We will turn our attention to the precursor people for the Philistine colony on the Canaan coast, the Minoans of Crete (or Caphtor); then, their descendants who considerably later converged on the Iberian Peninsula; their subsequent migration to the New World and lastly, the most influential nation incorporating descendants from Casluh (and Caphtor) amongst others: Mexico.
The Griffin Warrior: A Staggering Discovery from Ancient Greece, Philip Chrysopoulos, 2012 – emphasis mine:
‘The discovery of the Griffin Warrior Tomb is one of the most fascinating archaeological findings as it seems to link the Minoan and the Mycenaean civilizations. On May 28, 2015, the archaeologists excavating in Pylos, southwestern Greece, discovered a Bronze Age tomb with a skeleton surrounded by rich artifacts, suggesting it belonged to an important man. The grave belongs to the Mycenaean Civilisation… 1750 BC – 1050 BC.
Also, many of the objects found seem to be related to the Minoan Civilization, c. 3500 BC – 1100 BC. Overall archaeological research has shown that the Mycenaeans had reached most of the eastern Mediterranean, including ancient Egypt, the city-states of the Near East (today’s Turkey), and the islands of the Mediterranean. However, the strongest connection discovered is the one with the Minoan Civilization in the island of Crete. The Minoan Civilization was named after the legendary King Minos, but the islanders’ culture was very different from that found on mainland Greece.
The findings were jewelry, sealstones, carved ivories, combs, gold and silver goblets, and bronze weapons, hence the warrior suggestion. The artifacts included… Carnelian, amethyst, amber, and gold beads, four gold rings, many small, carved seals with etched depictions of combat, goddesses, reeds, altars, lions, and men jumping over bulls… A plaque of ivory with a representation of a griffon in a rocky landscape…
Excavations on the Greek mainland and Crete have shown that, beginning around 1600 BC, the comparatively unsophisticated culture on the mainland underwent a transformation. “In time, there’s a blossoming of wealth and culture,” Stocker told UC Magazine. “Palaces are built, wealth accumulates, and power is consolidated in places such as Pylos and Mycenae.” For a few centuries, mainland Greeks seemed to imitate the Minoans. Pylos, an early Mycenaean power center, had buildings that resembled the large houses with ashlar masonry found at Knossos, Crete.
“There were probably four or five fancy mansions in Pylos at the time of the Griffin Warrior, all very Minoan in style,” Davis said. The mansions had painted walls, a type of artistry pioneered by the Minoans. For a time period, the Mycenaeans imported Minoan luxury goods and incorporated Minoan symbols, such as the bull, into their own art. Rich Mycenaeans were buried with Minoan luxury goods, while some other graves included locally produced Mycenaean objects, such as painted pottery, copies of Minoan originals. Mycenaean society also changed shape, becoming more hierarchical.’
Unknown source:
‘The best example of a palace society are the Minoans in Crete. According to Greek myth, Minos was a powerful ruler who lived in Crete in a palace so big that it is known as the Labyrinth. The Athenians had wronged him, so every nine years they had to send seven youths and seven beautiful maidens who were devoured by the Minotaur, a fearsome beast half man half bull.’
Samson, linked with the tribe of Dan judged Israel for 20 years. He died in 1046 BCE after 40 years of Philistine oppression. His death caused the killing of thousands of influential Philistines and it was the beginning of the sons of Jacob eventually overthrowing their rule – refer Chapter XXXIV Dan: The Invisible Tribe.
In Judges 16:23-30 ESV, we read of this event.
23 ‘Now the lords of the Philistines gathered to offer a great sacrifice to Dagon their god and to rejoice, and they said, “Our god has given Samson our enemy into our hand.” 24 And when the people saw him, they praised their god. For they said, “Our god has given our enemy into our hand, the ravager of our country, who has killed many of us.” 25 And when their hearts were merry, they said, “Call Samson, that he may entertain us.” So they called Samson out of the prison, and he entertained them. They made him stand between the pillars.
26 And Samson said to the young man who held him by the hand, “Let me feel the pillars on which the house rests, that I may lean against them.” [for the Philistines had blinded Samson] 27 Now the house was full of men and women. All the lords of the Philistines were there, and on the roof there were about 3,000 men and women, who looked on while Samson entertained.
28 Then Samson called to the Lord and said, “O Lord God, please remember me and please strengthen me only this once, O God, that I may be avenged on the Philistines for my two eyes.”
29 And Samson grasped the two middle pillars on which the house rested, and he leaned his weight against them, his right hand on the one and his left hand on the other. 30 And Samson said, “Let me die with the Philistines.”
Then he bowed with all his strength, and the house fell upon the lords and upon all the people who were in it. So the dead whom he killed at his death were more than those whom he had killed during his life.’
This ‘house’ or temple palace had to be huge to hold so many people and this style of architecture was indicative of the Minoan civilisation located on Crete.
Online Encyclopaedia – emphasis mine:
‘The Minoan civilization was a Bronze Age Aegean civilisation on the island of Crete… flourishing from c. 3000 BC to c. 1450 BC until a late period of decline, finally ending around 1100 BC. It represents the first advanced civilization in Europe, leaving behind massive building complexes, tools, artwork, writing systems, and a massive network of trade. The civilization was rediscovered at the beginning of the 20th century through the work of British archaeologist Sir Arthur Evans.
The Minoan civilization is particularly notable for its large and elaborate palaces up to four stories high, featuring elaborate plumbing systems and decorated with frescoes. The most notable Minoan palace is that of Knossos, followed by that of Phaistos.
The Minoan period saw extensive trade between Crete, Aegean, and Mediterranean settlements, particularly the Near East. Through their traders and artists, the Minoans’ cultural influence reached beyond Crete to the Cyclades, the Old Kingdom of Egypt, copper-bearing Cyprus, Canaan and the Levantine coast and Anatolia [Asia Minor].
The Minoans primarily wrote in the Linear A… preceded by about a century by the Cretan hieroglyphs. It is unknown whether the language is Minoan, and its origin is debated. Although the hieroglyphs are often associated with the Egyptians, they also indicate a relationship to Mesopotamian writings. They… were used at the same time as Linear A (18th century BC). The hieroglyphs disappeared during the 17th century BC.’
Unknown source:
‘The Linear B tablets also reveal what may have been the most important activity of all: that is textile production’ – refer Chapter XIV Mizra: North Africa & Arabia.
‘Knossos ran a massive textile industry in which every aspect of manufacture and production was centrally controlled from management to wool producing cloths, to the provision of raw materials and rations to skilled specialists in textile workshops. The workforce involved was substantial. A tablet in the Ashmolean Museum records monthly rations for women at Knossos and Phaistos, and the amount of grain issued would have sufficed for 500 women at each location. The tablets record some 100,000 sheep producing between 30 and 50 tons of wool annually for luxury textile manufacturers – this was large scale industry.’
Artwork from Minoan Crete depicting a bull and a double blade axe, prevalent in their culture.
Online Encyclopaedia:
‘Bull-leaping is thought to have been a key ritual in the religion of the Minoan civilisation in… Crete… the bull was the subject of veneration and worship. Representation of the Bull at the palace of Knossos is a widespread symbol in the art and decoration of this archaeological site. The assumption, widely debated by scholars, is that the iconography represents a ritual sport [non-combatitive bull fighting] and/or performance in which human athletes – both male and female – literally vaulted over bulls as part of a ceremonial rite.’
‘This ritual is hypothesized to have consisted of an acrobatic leap over a bull, such that when the leaper grasped the bull’s horns, the bull would violently jerk its neck upwards, giving the leaper the momentum necessary to perform somersaults and other acrobatic tricks or stunts. The sport survives in modern France, usually with cows rather than bulls… in Spain, with bulls… and in Tamil Nadu, India with bulls…’
Bull vaulting – or leaping – artwork from Minoan Crete (above) and as it is performed today (below).
‘A running of the bulls… is an event that involves running in front of a small group of cattle, typically six but sometimes ten or more, that have been let loose on a course of a sectioned-off subset of a town’s streets, usually as part of a summertime festival. Particular breeds of cattle may be [favoured], such as the toro bravo in Spain… Bulls (non-castrated male cattle) are typically used in such events.’
Unknown source:
‘Bull fighting is very closely associated with Spain and can trace its origins back to 711 A.D [no coincidence that this was the peak of Al-Andalus and Moorish rule]. This is when the first bullfight took place in celebration for the crowning of King Alfonso VIII. It is very popular in Spain with several thousand Spaniards flocking to their local bull-ring each week. It is said that the total number of people watching bullfights in Spain reaches one million every year.’
Encyclopaedia – emphasis mine:
‘Tauroctony is a modern name given to the central cult reliefs of the Roman Mithraic Mysteries. The imagery depicts Mithras killing a bull, hence the name tauroctony after the Greek word tauroktonos… A tauroctony is distinct from the cultic slaughter of a bull in ancient Rome called a taurobolium; the taurobolium was mainly part of the unrelated cult of Cybele.’
Britannica – emphasis mine:
‘Mithra, also spelled Mithras, Sanskrit Mitra, in ancient Indo-Iranian mythology, the god of light, whose cult spread from India in the east to as far west as Spain, Great Britain, and Germany. The first written mention of the Vedic Mitra dates to 1400 BC. His worship spread to Persia and, after the defeat of the Persians by Alexander the Great, throughout the Hellenic world. In the 3rd and 4th centuries AD, the cult of Mithra, carried and supported by the soldiers of the Roman Empire,was the chief rival to the newly developing religion of Christianity – Article: The Seven Churches – A Message for the Church of God in the Latter Days.
According to myth, Mithra was born, bearing a torch and armed with a knife, beside a sacred stream [Holy Spirit] and under a sacred tree [in the Garden of Eden], a child of the earth itself. He soon rode, and later killed, the life-giving cosmic bull [the Storm god, Baal Hadad], whose blood fertilizes all vegetation [a god who oversaw the creation/evolution of life on the Earth]. Mithra’s slaying of the bull was a popular subject of Hellenic art and became the prototype for a bull-slaying ritual of fertility in the Mithraic cult. As god of light [a light bringer], Mithra was associated with the Greek sun god, Helios, and the Roman Sol Invictus [a god who rules life on Earth].’
Argentina (first flag) and Uruguay (second flag) have the golden sun god of May on their flags. The month of May’s name comes from the Italian Goddess of Spring: Maia. She was the wife of Vulcan (the Greek god Zeus). Maia is the eldest of the seven sisters, which comprise the Pleiades constellation – Articles: The PyramidPerplexity; and 42.’
Maia is a nymph and the daughter of Atlas – her name means great one.
The month of May begins in the sign of Taurus the Bull.
Two common sayings describing bulls, include: being ‘bull headed’; and like ‘a bull in a china shop’.
These have similarity with the definitions for being a Cretan or a Philistine.
As well as ‘Two bulls do not live in the same shade’, a Swahili Proverb reminiscent of a Mexican standoff; where there are no winners… and ‘Talking about bulls is not the same as facing them in the ring’ – a Mexican Proverb.
With reference to the Pleiades, it is an asterism in the Taurus the Bull constellation, adjacent to Orion and contain stars visible in the night sky. The Pleiades is well known as the Seven Sisters and Orion as the Great Hunter.
Intriguingly, the Bible deems the Pleiades and Orion important enough to mention them thrice.
Job 38:31-33
English Standard Version
31 “Can you bind* the chains [H4576 ma’adannah – (sweet) influence] of the Pleiades or loose the cords [belt] of Orion? [Job 9:9]
32Can you lead forth the Mazzaroth in their season [the 12 signs of the Zodiac and their 36 associated constellations], or can you guide the Bear [Ursa Major constellation] with its children? [Arcturus, a red giant star, 4th brightest in the sky, in the Bootes (the herdsman) constellation westwards of Ursa Major]
33 Do you know the ordinances of the heavens? Can you establish their rule [H4896 mishtar – dominion, authority] on the earth?
Amos 5:8
English Standard Version
‘He who made the Pleiades [the seven sisters] and Orion [the great hunter], and turns deep darkness into the morning and darkens the day into night, who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out on the surface of the earth, the Lord is his name…’
The Belt of Orion has been written about copiously since the three stars, Zeta, Epsilon and Delta were discovered to be apparently (yet inaccurately) in the same alignment as the three pyramids of the Giza complex – refer article: The Pyramid Perplexity.
Inside the Great Pyramid there are four internal shafts originating from the Kings Gallery and the Queens Gallery which point to four different constellations.
There is reason to consider that the constellations of Orion to the South and Draco in the North are linked to the ancestral homes respectively of the Sons of God and of the fallen Angels; the progenitors of the Nephilim – refer Chapter XXI The Incredible Identity, Origin & Destiny of Nimrod; Chapter XXII Alpha & Omega; and articles: Nephilim & Elioud Giants I & II.
‘… [the]… Pleiades as a group of seven stars… [are] visible to the naked eye as seven bright, blue-white stars, also called the Seven Sisters. Modern astronomy has shown that the constituent stars of Pleiades are expected to dissociate within the next 250 million years, and hence Pleiades is an open or unbound* cluster. That is, the motions and velocities of its constituent objects are such that the gravitational forces between them are not sufficient to hold it together (as a recognizable cluster) over the longer term. A ‘bound’ cluster, by contrast, can be shown to still be a recognizable grouping even if its motions are projected forward by a billion years or so.
Modern astronomy has revealed that more than 500 mostly faint stars belong to the Pleiades star cluster… Pleiades is a large but expanding, or unbound, cluster of stars that are all just passing the same region of space at the same time with the same motion. What was originally thought to be bound is unbound and what was thought to be unbound is bound (given current astrophysical definitions).
The text in Job 38:31, 32 describe real astronomical bodies. God is speaking to Job in practical terms about [actual] objects that Job can see (or has seen) and He is expecting Job to give Him immediate answers’ – refer Article: Job.
‘In the past, some have used this passage in Job to claim biblical accuracy in relation to the universe… it was argued that God was asking Job if he can do the same as God, while now we could turn the argument around and suggest that God is asking Job if he can undo what God has done…’
The veneration of the Bull was so prevalent and dominant in the second millennium BCE, that the sons of Jacob incredibly, made an idol of a golden calf soon after they had been miraculously delivered from bondage in Egypt. Staggeringly, over five hundred years later, when Israel and Judah split into two kingdoms after King Solomon’s reign, golden calfs were erected again – refer article: The Calendar Conspiracy.
Exodus 32:1-8, 35
English Standard Version
‘When the people saw that Moses delayed to come down from the mountain, the people gathered themselves together to Aaron and said to him, “Up, make us gods who shall go before us. As for this Moses, the man who brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we do not know what has become of him.” 2 So Aaron said to them, “Take off the rings of gold that are in the ears of your wives, your sons, and your daughters, and bring them to me.” 3 So all the people took off the rings of gold that were in their ears and brought them to Aaron.
4 And he received the gold from their hand and fashioned it with a graving tool [H2747 cheret – ‘a stylus, chisel’] and made a golden [H4541 maccekah – ‘molten metal, cast image’] calf [H5695 egel – ‘bull-calf, bullock, a steer’ a male calf* nearly grown].
And they said, “These are your gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt!” 5 When Aaron saw this, he built an altar before it. And Aaron made a proclamation and said,”Tomorrow shall be a feast to the Lord” – which lord?
6 ‘And they rose up early the next day and offered burnt offerings and brought peace offerings. And the people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to play. 7 And the Lord said to Moses, “Go down, for your people, whom you brought up out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves. 8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way that I commanded them. They have made for themselves a golden calf [the Sun god, Ra] and have worshiped it and sacrificed to it and said, “These are your gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt!”
19 And as soon as he came near the camp and saw the calf and the dancing, Moses’ anger burned hot, and he threw the tablets out of his hands and broke them at the foot of the mountain. 20 He took the calf that they had made and burned it with fire and ground it to powder and scattered it on the water and made the people of Israel drink it’ – refer article: The Ark of God.
21 ‘And Moses said to Aaron, “What did this people do to you that you have brought such a great sin upon them?” 22 And Aaron said, “Let not the anger of my lord burn hot. You know the people, that they are set on evil. 24 So I said to them, ‘Let any who have gold take it off.’ So they gave it to me, and I threw it into the fire, and out came this calf.”
35 Then the Lord sent a plague on the people, because they made the calf, the one that Aaron made.’
This is quite a scenario. There were people who were either oblivious or chose to ignore the leadership of Moses and how the Eternal was working through him, or the fact that the Creator had delivered the Israelites from Egypt through a series of ten spectacular miraculous plagues and then again in a mind boggling act of parting the Red Sea to save them; afterwards crashing down thousands of tons of water to kill their enemies. The very people who had cruelly enslaved them for one hundred and forty-seven years – refer Appendix VII: Moses, the Exodus & Red Sea Crossing – Fabrication or Fact? and Appendix IV: An Unconventional Chronology.
Moses’s elder brother Aaron is a revelation; the man chosen to found the Levitical Priesthood for the ancient Israelites – temporarily substituting the perpetual Melchizedek Order. Aaron put his artistic ability to use, fashioning the calf of gold and then he used his carpentry skills to build an altar to a pagan, false god. Aaron ironically next blames the people for being set on evil. And finally how does he think he can fool Moses, with: ‘I threw [the gold] into the fire, and out came this calf’ line. Miracles had been plenteous, so it was worth a shot it would seem.
The Creator reveals His wrath and disgust not for the last time, when He says to Moses that they are ‘your people, whom you brought up out of… Egypt.’ It is not surprising Moses lost his temper – ‘his anger burned hot’ – forgetting himself and dares to smash the tablets of the Law, whom the Creator had only just given him; the very One who has also delivered Moses and everyone that is partying, giving veneration to a god of gold which has no life, no power and for deeds not done, not worthy of any honour. As an after thought, the Creator inflicts a plague.
It wasn’t a good start for the fledgling relationship between the Eternal and the sons of Jacob and the tempestuousness of the marriage covenant continued, so that eventually the Creator divorced his chosen people and sent them into captivity some seven hundred years later for the Kingdom of Israel, and eight hundred and fifty years later for the Kingdom of Judah.
1 Kings 12:27-32
English Standard Version
27 ‘If this people go up to offer sacrifices in the temple of the Lord at Jerusalem, then the heart of this people will turn again to their lord, to Rehoboam king of Judah, and they will kill me and return to Rehoboam king of Judah.” 28 So the king took counsel [not good or wise counsel] and made two calves of gold. And he said to the people, “You have gone up to Jerusalem long enough. Behold your gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt.” 29 And he set one in Bethel [in the south], and the other he put in Dan [in the north].
30 Then this thing became a sin, for the people went as far as Dan to be before one. 31 He also made temples on high places and appointed priests from among all the people, who were not of the Levites. 32 And Jeroboam appointed a feast on the fifteenth day [the sabbath] of the eighth month [October/November] in similitude of the feast [of Tabernacles] that was observed in Judah [during the seventh month, September/October], and he offered sacrifices on the altar. So he did in Bethel, sacrificing to the calves that he made. And he placed in Bethel the priests of the high places that he had made.’
We will return to the incredible irony of an appointed feast in the eighth month later – refer Chapter XXXIII Manasseh & Ephraim – the Birthright Tribes.
The weakness of Jeroboam is sad in that he established a different feast, illegal temples and false gods so as to retain his new position as King of Israel and not risk losing his power to Rehoboam, the King of Judah and Solomon’s son.
The Genesis 6 Conspiracy, Gary Wayne, 2014, pages 228, 585-586 – emphasis mine:
‘The golden calf altercation communicates more significance than the superficial text delivers, explicating why God responded the way He did. The idol was part of the bull cult of Canaan… and the mysticism of [evil] Enoch. The golden calf would not have been a calf but rather a bull… Exodus describes the idol as a calf to denigrate it… a bull, the aboriginal symbol or potency. Others… conclude the golden calf was indeed a calf* and base this on the Apis/Osiris bull cult of ancient Egypt… Isis bore from her womb a calf that died and later became Osiris. The Apis bull was part of Horus-king tradition…’ – Article: Belphegor.
‘The bull from Egypt’s rival bull cult was a symbol of power and defiance… the skill set required for Aaron to manufacture the golden calf came from Jethro… these skills were derived from his Kenite background that allegedly dated back to Tubal-Cain and Cain, the master antediluvian metallurgists. Baal and related deities were by and large portrayed as mating bulls symbolising fertility… Early depictions of Molech portrayed him to be a man with a bull’s head… [with a] striking similarity between Molech… and the bull of Minos… on Crete’ – Article: Na’amah.
In the Mithras Symbolism [observe earlier photo above]
the Bull is Taurus;
the Dog is Canis Major, the Greater Dog star, Sirius;
the Snake is Hydra and Serpens from Draco and
the Scorpion is Scorpius or scorpio.
Coincidentally, all are represented in the shaft positions within the Great Pyramid.
Sun – Bull Cult: English Words Ox, Cow and Latin Taurus… derive from Sumerian Turkish, Mehmet Kurtkaya, 2019 – emphasis mine:
‘Imagine how important it was for the people living in the region to have domesticated these big animals. Aurochs [wild bulls] are the biggest animals ever domesticated apart from the elephant. There is a dispute whether elephants are [truly] domesticated or not. Moreover, cattle and [oxen were] not only a symbol of richness, it meant richness. Domestication of… cattle was a major breakthrough that provided the opportunity for people to rely less on game hunting. Cattle provided them milk, meat and blood. Their hides were used for clothing, their [dung] as fuel, and their bones as tools.’
Wild Aurochs painted on the walls of Lascaux Caves, France.
‘Gobeklitepe was deliberately buried with dirt and stones some 10,000 years ago. The reason is still unknown’ – refer Gobekli Tepe, article: Monoliths of the Nephilim.
“Many animals have been totem animals for tens of thousands of years. These animals were representative of the group/tribe of people and their beliefs. Cult animals were symbols. Even today, sports teams have animal mascots… maybe remnants from ancient periods.
At the very least, associating a team with an animal is a major coincidence with ancient practices.”
[The] Bull is the oldest and most prominent [animal worshiped] in early agricultural societies. Latest genetics research revealed that [the] farming revolution… started in and around the Taurus mountains in Southeast Turkey and spread West to Europe and East to Iran from there. In fact, our modern wheat was first domesticated in Alacadag (Alaca mountain), near Gobeklitepe!’ – refer Chapter I Noah Antecessor Nulla.
‘We know that bulls are specially portrayed by the hunter gatherers of Gobeklitepe. Not too far from Gobeklitepe, neolithic site of Catalhoyuk had a bull cult about 8000 years ago. We find a bull cult in the indigenous Hatti civilization in Turkey (Anatolia) some 4500 years ago. And in Sumer (starting around 4000 BC), bulls represented sun and sky gods, their highest gods.
So, there is a continuity of [the] bull cult for civilizations in Turkey and Mesopotamia for thousands of years. The fact that Gobeklitepe is located on a hill is an indication of a very important aspect of human beliefs some 12,000 years ago: sky and sun worship. This is in line with the idea of [a] sacred mountain found in Shamanistic beliefs from Siberia. In Sumer, we find Ekur, [a] sacred mountain house where gods resided, very similar to Olympos Mountain in Ancient Greece’ – Chapter XXII Alpha & Omega.
From Ankara Medeniyetler Muzesi. Bull Cult from Catalhuyuk, a famous pre-pottery neolithic archeological site in Central Turkey 9,500-6,500 BP.
‘Egyptian Pyramids are the representations of the same beliefs based on sacred mountains. In Sumerian, “E” means house and the word “kur” represents a cosmic mountain, in addition to being the term for mountain: e+kur = Ekur. “Kur” is also the stem for the Turkish word “kurgan”, the burial mound found all over Eurasia, north Africa and [the] Americas. It also means the underworld.
“Gin” is [a] Sumerian word for mountain. “Gan” is gate as in gate to heaven. Kur+gan = Kurgan means “underworld mountain”. Some of the highest Sumerian gods, Enlil and Enki, who resided in Ekur were thought to have brought agriculture and animal husbandry to humans.
In Turkey, Mesopotamia and the surrounding regions, the bull was commonly associated with [the] sun and later [the] storm gods. Ugur (Hurrian) religious mountain sanctuaries Musasir, Kumme, Ukku and Subria located along the Taurus mountains in Southeastern Turkey, were considered as the most important centers of the Hurrian weather god Teshub (similar to Hatti Taru).
Hence, the name of the mountain ranges in Southern Turkey is the same as the word for Bull, [the] symbol animal of the storm god… They were first found in Sumer, Akkadian, Assyrian, and other ancient Near Eastern societies including the later Urartu kingdom, and Persia, Iran’ – Chapter XVII Lud & Iran.
‘Winged animal deities continued to be used elsewhere, for example in Ancient [Greece] such as the Pegasus, with [a] horse instead of the bull. [The] Cretan Minotaur is the half man-half bull deity.
Gold was the most important precious metal for ancient people, and it still is, many thousands of years later’ – Article: The Ark of God.
Sumerians used gold and lapis lazuli not only as [an] ornament but more so, for religious reasons. Gold represented the sun, and lapis lazuli the sky and the heavens. However, there was no lapis lazuli nor gold mines in Sumer or in the immediate vicinity. Moreover, their knowledge and their advanced workmanship of gold proves they worked with gold before migrating to Sumer. These are among the many evidences indicating the origins of the Sumerian people. For gold, Iran, Turkey, [and the] Indus Valley civilization are the potential sources but for lapis lazuli, there is only one source: Afghanistan!
All of this clearly point[s] at [the] Northeast’ – the Himalayan Mountains: refer Chapter I Noah Antecessor Nulla – ‘as the direction of their migration.
Gold and Lapis Lazuli were not the only ones, they also imported silver which they used as money, as well as carnelian and chlorite.
Sun Language Theory states that languages were born out of religious rituals, specifically sun [sky] worship. Taurus is the word used for bull in Latin and similar words are found in other Indo-European languages that prove a single origin for the word. Taurus is also the name of the constellation deriving from the word for bull. Moreover, Taurus is the name of the mountain ranges extending from Southwest to Southeast Turkey!
… The chapter “Gat (Gut) / Hatti / Hittite civilizations” [from] my book on Sumerian Turks:
“How many people know that Taurus, the name of the zodiac sign, derives from a rather unknown civilization that lived in Turkey in ancient times? The bull was commonly the symbol and depiction of ancient Near Eastern storm gods, Taru/Taur is [the] Gat/Hatti bull cult from some 5,000 years ago. In Turkmenistan, Sumer, Anatolia, Ancient Greece and elsewhere in many corners of Eurasia we find: Taurus.”
Taru was the name of the Hatti storm god and also the basis of Hittite Tarhunz, Etruscan Tarkan, similar in function to Greek Zeus, Indian Indra, Roman Jupiter and other Indo-European gods as well as Hurrian Teshub. In Greek mythology, many deities had an animal form. They are called theriomorphic gods. Note the relation of the Ancient Greek word “Theri” meaning “wild beast” to the word for Hatti god Taru and the word for bull “Taurus”.
In “Greek Religion: Archaic and Classical”, late German Professor Walter Burkert explains [the] bull god in Greek mythology and shows that major Greek gods, Zeus, Dionysus, and Poseidon among others were at times associated with the bull. In Kyzikos, founded by the Pelasgians [Philistines] / Etruscans, Dyonisus has a tauromorphic cult image.
Poseidon, the god of the sea, was associated with either a horse or a bull. Zeus, in the form of a bull, abducted Europa and brought her to Crete. It is very likely that the Latin word for sea “Mare” derives from [the] Sumerian word for bull “Amar”… and this is due to the role of [the] bull in Greek mythology! Indian god Nandi is associated with the bull. Indra also is often mentioned as a bull. In Egypt, the bull was worshiped as Apis, and representative of the Sun god Ra. In Irish mythology, the hero Cu Chulainn appears in [the] Ulster cycle and Scottish folklore. Donn Cuailnge the bull, appears in Tain Bo Cuailnge, a legendary tale from Early Irish mythology.
From [a] Wikipedia article for “Cu Chulainn”.
“Cu Chulainn shows striking similarities to the legendary Persian hero Rostam, as well as to the Germanic Lay of Hildebrand and the labours of the Greek epic hero Heracles, suggesting a common Indo-European origin, but lacking in linguistic, anthropological and archaeological material.”
“Lacking linguistic material”, wrong! And there is quite a lot of groundbreaking genetic studies involving the peopling of Europe and the British Isles that supports the connection. As a side note, Rostam or Rustam is the legendary hero in Shahname and Iranian mythology. Irish mythological hero Cu Chulainn sounds the same as Sumerian divine bull Gugalanna!
This is not a coincidence and points at the Sumerian Turkish origins of the Irish and English language and civilization.
Turkish word “okuz”… sounds and means exactly [the] same thing as the English word “ox”. In Hungarian, the word for “ox” is “okor”. It is very telling that Turkish “okuz” which is connected to the word “Oguz” Turkish has an “r” counterpart in Hungarian, as “okor”.
There are currently two versions of Turkish, one is Ogur Turkish the older one, and Oguz the newer one marked by an r-z conversion and some other features. This is additional evidence for [a] Hungarian connection to ancient Ogur Turkish which includes Sumerian.
That’s why Hungarian matches Sumerian so well.’
We will return to the pivotal Hungarian, Turkish and Sumerian language link – refer Chapter XXIV Arphaxad & Joktan: Balts, Slavs & the Balkans; and Chapter XVIII – Elam & Turkey.
The tradition of keeping alive the veneration of the bull is highly visible in Spain, where a portion of the descendants of Casluh (and Caphtor) once dwelt – yet where the descendants of Aram* still do – Chapter XXXIII Aram & Tyre: Spain, Portugal & Brazil.
This is a good example of a previous people leaving behind traditions, language, names and so forth which make it look like they are the one-and-the-same people, but actually they are not, even if related. We will encounter a similar scenario with the Vikings who migrated from Scandinavia into Britain – refer Chapter XXXII Issachar, Zebulun, Asher & Naphtali – the Antipodean Tribes.
The exodus of peoples from Spain to New Spain – similar to the migration of people from Britain and Ireland to North America – was a staggering relocation of peoples. The people remaining in Old Spain are not Philistines – figuratively, geographically or prophetically. We will confirm that they are descended primarily from the line of Shem* and not Ham, Mizra, Casluh (or Caphtor) – Chapter XXIII Aram & Tyre: Spain, Portugal & Brazil.
While the Spanish were still a recipient of the vast wealth derived from an enormous empire in the Americas, they were not the exact same ethnic stock as the migrant peoples in the America’s; even though in large part related.
Encyclopaedia – emphasis mine:
‘The weakening of the Western Roman Empire’s jurisdiction in [Roman] Hispania began in 409, when the Germanic Suebi [or Suevi] and Vandals, together with the Sarmation Alans entered the peninsula at the invitation of a Roman usurper. These tribes had crossed the Rhine in early 407 and ravaged Gaul [modern France].
The Suebi established a kingdom in what is today modern Galicia and northern Portugal, whereas the Vandals established themselves in southern Spain by 420 before crossing over to North Africa in 429 and taking Carthage in 439.
The Byzantines established an occidental province, Spania, in the south, with the intention of reviving Roman rule throughout Iberia. Eventually, however, Hispania was reunited under Visigothic rule. These Visigoths or Western Goths, after sacking Rome under the leadership of Alaric (410), turned towards the Iberian Peninsula with Athaulf for their leader, and occupied the northeastern portion. Wallia extended his rule over most of the peninsula, keeping the Suebians shut up in Galicia.
Theodoric I took part, with the Romans and Franks, in the Battle of the Catalaunian Plains where Atilla was routed. Euric (466), who put an end to the last remnants of Roman power in the peninsula, may be considered the first monarch of Spain, though the Suebians still maintained their independence in Galicia. Euric was also the first king to give written laws to the Visigoths. In the following reigns the Catholic kings of France assumed the role of protectors of the Hispano-Roman Catholics against the Arianism* of the Visigoths…’
The considerable information presented, essentially provides the names of the peoples who either remained in the Iberian Peninsula and Hispania, forming the eventual nations of Spain and Portugal and those Hispanics who departed for the New World and New Spain.
We will discover that the Visigoths were the nucleus of people who remained in Spain;
while the Suebians were split between those people who migrated to Brazil and those who remained to form the modern nation of Portugal.
Whereas, the Vandals and Alans principally represent the Philistine peoples descended from Aram and who had been migrating from the Canaanite coast and through Europe for the past nearly one thousand years.
The one people not mentioned are the Moors, who represent the other integral branch of Philistine peoples descended from Casluh and in turn, Caphtor.
The misnomer is that the Moors were ‘Black’ or ‘dark’ skinned, yet this appellation was to distinguish the Moors from lighter skinned Europeans. Just as Sicilians were once labelled as black on census forms to segregate them from lighter skinned northern Italians.
The Moors were the ancestors of Berbers and certain Arabs. This is a vital point to remember as the paternal Haplogroups of Latin American men indicate their heritage as either being a ‘Philistine’ descended from Aram (and therefore Shem); or from Casluh, Caphtor and Mizra (and therefore Ham).
Returning to the Arianism held by the Visigoths.
The Trinitarian view of the Godhead was first imposed on Christianity in 325 CE at the Council of Nicaea, with an initial Binitarian definition and then again in 381 CE, at the Council of Constantinople, with the addition of the Holy ‘Ghost’ as a person. It is a confusing doctrine for it is concocted by men in error and not drawn from the simplicity of the scriptures or founded in truth. This new view – for Christianity, though actually an ancient idea – of the Godhead is, in paraphrased terms:
A unity of a singular Deity, composed of three co-eternal, distinct identities.
The doctrine is convoluted and serpentine and cannot be supported by the Bible, hard as people endeavour to try. It willingly misinterprets and mis-understands the uniqueness of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The concept of a triune of gods was not new. A Queen of Heaven and Mother of God reach back into time, way farther than the beginning of humankind. This is why Christ’s mother Mary, has been elevated to Mother of God status – the real Trinity of the Universal Church – hidden in plain sight, in the shadow of the Trinity doctrine, but no less foisted on unsuspecting believers – refer article: Arius, Alexander & Athanasius.
Nimrod, Semiramis and Tammuz were a prominent triad in ancient Babylon. In Egypt it was Osiris, Isis and Horus; and in Mesopotamia, Anu, Enlil and Ea – or Enki. Hinduism has Brahma, Shivu and Vishnu; and even Plato taught of an Unknown Father, a Logos and a World Soul. In Greece, there was Zeus, Athena and Apollo – or Zeus, Poseidon and Pluto – and in Rome, the most well known trio of Jupiter, Juno and Minerva; though just one triad of a myriad believed by the ancient Romans – Article: Monoliths of the Nephilim.
There is the triad of Al-Lat, Al-Uzza and Manat in the time of Mohammed, referenced in Surah 53:19-22; the Lugus – Esus, Toutatis and Taranis – in Celtic mythology; and the Saha Realm in Mahayana Buddhism – Shakyamuni, Avalokitesvara and Ksitigarbha. As well as the Three Pure Ones of Taoism; Fu, Lu and Shou; and the Hooded Spirits of the Gauls, to name literally just a few.
Let no one persuade the reader that the Trinity is unique to Christianity, that it is Bible based or that it was taught by Christ and the apostles in the early church. The Arian* view, upheld by the Goths for centuries, simply held that the Holy Spirit and Christ were not God, like the Father. Rather, the Father is the one true God; Christ his begotten, created son; and the Holy Spirit, God’s divine essence and power with which He simultaneously creates and upholds the creation – 1 Timothy 1:17; Revelation 3:14; Acts 1:8.
Encyclopaedia – emphasis mine:
‘The name Alan is an Iranian dialectal form of Aryan.
Having migrated westwards [from Central Asia] and [becoming] dominant among the Sarmations [the future Slavs] living between the Don River and the Caspian Sea… The Alans are mentioned in the Vologases inscription which reads that Vologeses I, the Parthian king between around 51 and 78 AD, in the 11th year of his reign (62 AD), battled Kuluk, king of the Alani. The 1st century AD Jewish historian Josephus supplements this inscription. Josephus reports in the Jewish Wars (book 7, chapter 7.4) how Alans (whom he calls a “Scythian” tribe) living near the Sea of Azoz crossed the Iron Gates for plunder (72 AD) and defeated the armies of Pacorus, King of Media, and Tiridates King of Armenia, two brothers of Vologese I.’
There are three points of interest.
First, the old foes Israel and the Philistines were fighting each other once more. A different time, a different place and with different names but still the same peoples; with the duality of living near each other and the same requirement to fight.
Second, we will study the Parthians and investigate their identity as sons of Jacob – Chapter XXX Judah & Benjamin – the Regal Tribes.
For it is no coincidence that the Mexican Philistines dwell adjacent to the United States of America today, acting one half, friendly economic ally and one half troublesome rival neighbour – with twin detrimental society changing influences of the drug trade on one hand and human traffic of some two thousand illegal immigrants a day, entering the United States on the other (Chapter XXXIII Manasseh & Ephraim – the Birthright Tribes.
Third, the Alan Philistines holding to type and plundering. We will repeatedly confirm that the Vandals and Alans were masters of looting and pillage warfare.
Encyclopaedia:
‘In 135 AD, the Alans made a huge raid into Asia Minor via the Caucasus, ravaging Media and Armenia. They were eventually driven back by Arrian the governor of Cappadocia, who wrote a detailed report (Ektaxis kata Alanoon or ‘War Against the Alans’) that is a major source for studying Roman military tactics.
From 215 to 250 AD, the Germanic Goths expanded south-eastwards and broke the Alan dominance on the Pontic Steppe. The Alans however seem to have had a significant influence on Gothic culture, who became excellent horsemen and adopted the Alanic animal style art. After the Gothic entry to the steppe, many of the Alans seem to have retreated eastwards towards the Don, where they seem to have established contacts with the Huns. Ammianus writes that the Alans were “somewhat like the Huns, but in their manner of life and their habits they are less savage.” Jordanes contrasted them with the Huns, noting that the Alans “were their equals in battle, but unlike them in their civilisation, manners and appearance” – Chapter XVIII Elam & Turkey.
‘Around 370, according to Ammianus, the peaceful relations between the Alans and Huns were broken, after the Huns attacked the Don Alans, killing many of them and establishing an alliance with the survivors. These Alans successfully invaded the Goths in 375 together with the Huns. They subsequently accompanied the Huns in their westward expansion. Following the Hunnic invasion in 370, other Alans… migrated westward.
As the Roman Empire… [declined] the Alans split into various groups; some fought for the Romans while others joined the Huns, Visigoths [Spain] or Ostrogoths [Eastern Goths, Southern Italy and Greece]. A portion of the western Alans joined the Vandals and Suebi in their invasion of Roman Gaul…’
The Alans joined their kin, the Vandals and the Visigoths; with all entering Spain and the Ostrogoths in Italy. Many Italians migrated to the New World, especially to Argentina, Uruguay and Brazil. These Italians, are principally a different people to the Italians in Italy, just as the Spanish remaining in Spain are not the same as the Hispanics who migrated to the America’s – Chapter XXV Italy: Nahor & the Chaldeans.
Encyclopaedia:
‘In 406 the Vandals advanced from Pannonia travelling west along the Danube without much difficulty, but when they reached the Rhine, they met resistance from the Franks, who populated and controlled Romanized regions in northern Gaul. Twenty thousand Vandals, including [their leader] Godigisel… died in the resulting battle… The Alan king Respendial saved the day for the Vandals in an armed encounter with the Franks at the crossing of the Rhine on December 31, 406. The Vandals crossed the Rhine, probably while it was frozen, to invade Gaul, which they devastated terribly. Under Godigisel’s son Gunderic, the Vandals plundered their way westward and southward through Aquitaine.
Following the fortunes of the Vandals and Suebi into the Iberian Peninsula (Hispania, comprising modern Portugal and Spain) in 409, the Alans led by Respendial settled in the provinces of Lusitania [west] and Cartaginensis. The Kingdom of the Alans was among the first Barbarian kingdoms to be founded. The Siling Vandals settled in Baetica [south], the Suebi in coastal Gallaecia, and the Asding Vandals in the rest of Gallaecia.
In 418 (or 426 according to some authors), the Alan king, Attaces, was killed in battle against the Visigoths, and this branch of the Alans subsequently appealed to the Asding Vandal king Gunderic to accept the Alan crown. Although some of these Alans are thought to have remained in Iberia, most went to North Africa [crossing the Strait of Gibraltar] with the Vandals in 429. Later the rulers of the Vandal Kingdom in North Africa styled themselves Rex Wandalorum et Alanorum (“King of the Vandals and Alans”).
There are some vestiges of the Alans in Portugal, namely in Alenquer (whose name may be Germanic for the Temple of the Alans, from “Alan Kerk”, and whose castle may have been established by them; the Alaunt is still represented in that city’s coat of arms), in the construction of the castles of Torres, Vedras and Almourol and in the city walls of Lisbon, where vestiges of their presence may be found under the foundations of the Church of Santa Luzia.
In 422 Gunderic decisively defeated a Roman-Suebi-Gothic coalition… For the next five years… Gunderic created widespread havoc in the western Mediterranean. In 425, the Vandals pillaged… Hispania and Mauritania, sacking Carthago Spartaria (Cartagena) and Hispalis (Seville)…
The capture of the maritime city of Carthago Spartaria enabled the Vandals to engage in widespread naval activities. In 428 Gunderic… died… He was succeeded by his half-brother Genseric who although he was illegitimate (his mother was a Roman slave) had held a prominent position at the Vandal court, rising to the throne unchallenged.’
Map of the Vandal and Alan Kingdom at the height of their power. Notice the geography of their lands. Coasts and isles as in keeping with their preference for these types of regions, evidenced by the Minoan Island of Crete and the Philistine coast in South-west Canaan.
Encyclopaedia:
‘Genseric is often regarded by historians as the most able barbarian leader of the Migration Period… he probably contributed more to the destruction of Rome than any of his contemporaries. It is possible that the name Al-Andalus (and its derivative Andalasia) is derived from the Arabic adoption of the name of the Vandals.
The Vandals under Genseric (also known as Geiseric) crossed to Africa in 429. Although numbers are unknown and some historians debate the validity of estimates, based on Procopius’ assertion that the Vandals and Alans numbered 80,000 when they moved to North Africa… Genseric seized Carthage on October 19 [in 439 CE]. The city was captured without a fight; the Vandals entered the city while most of the inhabitants were attending the races at the hippodrome. Genseric made it his capital, and… he built his kingdom into a powerful state.
The impression given by ancient sources… was that the Vandal take-over of Carthage and North Africa led to widespread destruction. However, recent archaeological investigations have challenged this assertion. Although Carthage’s Odeon was destroyed, the street pattern remained the same and some public buildings were renovated. The political centre of Carthage was the Byrsa Hill. New industrial centres emerged within towns during this period. Historian Andy Merrills uses the large amounts of African Red Slip ware discovered across the Mediterranean dating from the Vandal period of North Africa to challenge the assumption that the Vandal rule of North Africa was a time of economic instability.
During the next thirty-five years, with a large fleet, Genseric looted the coasts of the Eastern and Western Empires. Vandal activity in the Mediterranean was so substantial that the sea’s name in Old English was Wendelsæ (i.e. Sea of the Vandals). After Atilla the Hun’s death, however, the Romans could afford to turn their attention back to the Vandals, who were in control of some of the richest lands of their former empire. In an effort to bring the Vandals into the fold of the Empire, Valentinian III offered his daughter’s hand in marriage to Genseric’s son. Before this treaty could be carried out, however, politics again played a crucial part in the blunders of Rome.
Petronius Maximus killed Valentinain III and claimed the Western throne. Diplomacy between the two factions broke down, and in 455 with a letter from the Empress Licinia Eudoxia, begging Genseric’s son to rescue her, the Vandals took Rome, along with the Empress and her daughters Eudocia and Placidia… on 2 June 455, Pope Leo the Great received Genseric and implored him to abstain from murder and destruction by fire, and to be satisfied with pillage.
Whether the pope’s influence saved Rome is, however, questioned. The Vandals departed with countless valuables. Eudoxia and her daughter Eudocia were taken to North Africa. As a result of the Vandal sack of Rome and piracy in the Mediterranean, it became important to the Roman Empire to destroy the Vandal kingdom. In 460, Malorain launched an expedition against the Vandals, but was defeated at the battle of Cartagena.
In 468 the Western and Eastern Roman empires launched an enormous expedition against the Vandals under the command of Basiliscus, which reportedly was composed of 100,000 soldiers and 1,000 ships. The Vandals defeated the invaders at the Battle of Cap Bon, capturing the Western fleet, and destroying the Eastern through the use of fire ships.
Following up the attack, the Vandals tried to invade the Peloponnese, but were driven back by the Maniots at Kenipolis with heavy losses. In retaliation, the Vandals took 500 hostages at Zakynthos, hacked them to pieces and threw the pieces overboard on the way to Carthage.
In the 470s, the Romans abandoned their policy of war against the Vandals… and in 476 Genseric was able to conclude a “perpetual peace” with Constantinople. Relations between the two states assumed a veneer of normality. From 477 onwards, the Vandals produced their own coinage, restricted to bronze and silver low-denomination coins.’
‘Differences between the Arian Vandals and their Trinitarian subjects (including both Catholics and Donatists) were a constant source of tension in their African state. Catholic bishops were exiled or killed by Genseric and laymen were excluded from office and frequently suffered confiscation of their property. He protected his Catholic subjects when his relations with Rome and Constantinople were friendly, as during the years 454-57, when the Catholic community at Carthage, being without a head, elected Deogratias bishop.
Huneric, Genseric’s successor, issued edicts against Catholics in 483 and 484 in an effort to marginalise them and make Arianism the primary religion in North Africa. Generally most Vandal kings… persecuted Trinitarian Christians to a greater or lesser extent, banning conversion for Vandals, exiling bishops and generally making life difficult for Trinitarians.
According to the 1913 Catholic Encyclopaedia:
“Genseric, one of the most powerful personalities of the “era of the Migrations”, died on 25 January 477, at the great age of around 88 years… [The Vandal-Alan Kingdom waned over the next fifty years and] in 534 Gelimer [Vandal leader] surrendered to the Byzantine conqueror, ending the Kingdom of the Vandals. North Africa… became a Roman province again, from which the Vandals were expelled. Many Vandals… fled to the two Gothic kingdoms (Ostrogothic Kingdom and Visigothic Kingdom) [Italy and Spain respectively].
The 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia states that “Gelimer was honourably treated and received large estates in Galatia. He was also offered the rank of a patrician but had to refuse it because he was not willing to change his Arian faith.
In the words of historian Roger Collins:
“The remaining Vandals were then shipped back to Constantinople to be absorbed into the imperial army. As a distinct ethnic unit they disappeared”.Some… Vandals remained in North Africa while more migrated back to Spain.’
The Vandals did not cease to exist – they disappeared of sorts, just not quite in the way Roger Collins is saying – as they were assimilated into the Gothic lands of Spain and Italy, to later emigrate to the Americas.
Encyclopaedia:
‘The etymology of the name [Vandal] may be related to a Germanic verb “wand – to wander” (English wend, German wandeln). The Germanic mythological figure of Aurvandil “shining wanderer; dawn wanderer, evening star”, or “Shining Vandal”…
Renaissance and early-modern writers characterized the Vandals as barbarians, “sacking and looting” Rome [in AD 455]. This led to the use of the term “vandalism” to describe any pointless destruction, particularly the”barbarian” defacing of artwork.
English Restoration Poet John Dryden wrote, Till Goths, and Vandals, a rude Northern race, / Did all the matchless Monuments deface. Vandals and other “barbarian” groups had long been blamed for the fall of the Roman Empire by writers and historians.’
Two important points to remember about the Vandals and Alans.
Firstly, their corollary traits with the Philistines – rampaging and pillaging with total disregard for property – building elaborate palaces and staying true to their roots as sea peoples, migrating by ships and dwelling on coasts and isles.
Secondly, not all Vandals and Alans stayed in North Africa, some ventured to Italy and Asia Minor, though the vast majority returned to Spain. We will pick up their story again, a thousand years hence.
Encyclopaedia:
‘Castile, under the reign of Henry III, began the colonization of the Canary Islands in 1402… The conquest of the Canary Islands, inhabited by Guanche people, was only finished when the armies of the Crown of Castile won, in long and bloody wars, the islands of Gran Canaria (1478–1483), La Palma (1492–1493) and Tenerife (1494–1496).
In 1492, Spain drove out the last Moorish king of Granada.
After their victory, the Catholic monarchs negotiated with Christopher Columbus a Genoese sailor attempting to reach Cipangu by sailing west. Castile was already engaged in a race of exploration with Portugal to reach the Far East by sea when Columbus made his bold proposal to Isabella. Columbus instead inadvertently “discovered” the Americas, inaugurating the Spanish colonization of the continents. The Indies were reserved for Castile.
Spanish immigration to Cuba began in 1492, when… Columbus first landed on the island, and continues to the present day.
The first sighting of a Spanish boat approaching the island was on 28 October 1492, probably at Baracoa on the eastern point of the island… Columbus on his first voyage to the Americas, sailed south from what is now the Bahamas to explore the northeast coast of Cuba and the northern coast of Hispaniola. Columbus found the island believing it to be a peninsula of the Asian mainland.
In 1511, Diego Velazquez de Cuellar set out with three ships and an army of 300 men from Santo Domingo to form the first Spanish settlement in Cuba, with orders from Spain to conquer the island. In 1517 Cuba’s [now] governor Diego Velazquez de Cuellar commissioned a fleet under the command of Hernandez de Cordoba to explore the Yucatan peninsula. They reached the coast where mayans invited them to land. They were attacked at night and only a remnant of the crew returned.’
‘Velazquez then commissioned another expedition led by his nephew Juan de Grijalva, who sailed south along the coast to [the] Tabasco part of the Aztec empire. In 1518 Velazquez gave the mayor of the capital of Cuba, Hernan Cortes, the command of an expedition to secure the interior of Mexico but, due to an old gripe between them, revoked the charter. In February 1519 Cortes went ahead anyway, in an act of open mutiny. With about 11 ships, 500 men, 13 horses and a small number of cannons he landed in Yucatan, in Mayan territory, claiming the land for the Spanish crown.’
‘From Trinidad he proceeded to Tabasco and won a battle against the natives. Among the vanquished was Marina (La Malinche), his future mistress, who knew both (Aztec) Nahuatl language and Maya, becoming a valuable interpreter and counsellor. Cortes learned about the wealthy Aztec Empire through La Malinche.
In July his men took over Veracruz and he placed himself under direct orders of new king Charles I of Spain. There Cortes asked for a meeting with Aztec Emperor Montezuma II, who repeatedly refused. They headed to Tenochtitlan and on the way made alliances with several tribes. In October, accompanied by about 3,000 Tiaxcaltec they marched to Choula, the second largest city in central Mexico.’
Popocatépetl Volcano is an active stratovolcano located in central Mexico. It is the second highest peak in Mexico, standing at 5,393 meters (17,694 feet), and has been in a phase of continuous activity since 1994, frequently emitting ash and gas.
‘Either to instill fear upon the Aztecs waiting for him or (as he later claimed) wishing to make an example when he feared native treachery, they massacred thousands of unarmed members of the nobility gathered at the central plaza and partially burned the city. Arriving in Tenochtitlan with a large army, on November 8 they were peacefully received by Montezuma II, who deliberately let Cortes enter the heart of the Aztec Empire, hoping to know them better to crush them later. The emperor gave them lavish gifts in gold which enticed them to plunder vast amounts.
In his letters to King Charles, Cortes claimed to have learned then that he was considered by the Aztecs to be either an emissary of the feathered serpent god Quetzacoatl or Quetzalcoatl himself – a belief contested by a few modern historians’ – Article: The Pyramid Perplexity.
‘But he soon learned that his men on the coast had been attacked, and decided to hostage Moctezuma in his palace, demanding a ransom as tribute to King Charles. Meanwhile, Velasquez sent another expedition, led by Panfilo de Narvaez, to oppose Cortes, arriving in Mexico in April 1520 with 1,100 men. Cortés left 200 men in Tenochtitlan and took the rest to confront Narvaez, whom he overcame, convincing his men to join him. In Tenochtitlan one of Cortes’s lieutenants committed a massacre in the Great Temple, triggering local rebellion.
Cortes speedily returned, attempting the support of Montezuma but the Aztec emperor was killed, possibly stoned by his subjects. The Spanish fled for the Tlaxcaltec during the Noche Triste, where they managed a narrow escape while their back guard was massacred. Much of the treasure looted was lost during this panicked escape.
After a battle in Otumba they reached Tlaxcala, having lost 870 men. Having prevailed with the assistance of allies and reinforcements from Cuba Cortes besieged Tenochtitlan and captured its ruler Cuauhtemoc in August 1521. As the Aztec Empire ended he claimed the city for Spain, renaming it Mexico City.’
Mexico City, capital of Mexico
The Spanish adopted at this time and continued throughout the Americas, a program of destroying indigenous settlements and then re-building them, destroying native art and literature, so that hardly any records remain today and near genocide of Amerindian populations, including Aztecs and Incas.’
From Cretans and Philistines to Vandals and Conquistadors; five thousand years of history for the descendants of Casluh (his son Caphtor), as well as Aram are charted with destruction and desecration.
One item the Philistines were prudent enough not to destroy was the Israelite’s Ark of the Covenant which they captured and held for seven months (refer 1 Samuel 5:1-11; 6:1) – article: TheArk of God.
Early Chinese descriptions of the ‘Spanish’ in the Philippines:
“These barbarians (Europeans) [Philistines] have a grim look, untidy hair, and an unpleasant smell. They have no rituals worthy of the name, they’re liars, and are rather arrogant. They conquer countries by fraud and force, ingratiating themselves in a friendly way, before they oppress the natives.
At the heart of their conduct is Violence.”
Mexican Flag
Encyclopaedia:
‘Mexihco is the Nahuatl term for the heartland of the Aztec Empire… with its people being known as the Mexica.
After the colony achieved independence from the Spanish Empire in 1821, [the] territory came to be known as the State of Mexico, with the new country being named after its capital: Mexico City, which itself was founded in 1524 on the site of the ancient Mexica capital of Mexico-Tenochtitlan.’
Mexico City
‘Mexico City is the…largest city of Mexico and the most-populous city in North America. Mexico City is one of the most important cultural and financial centres in the world. It is located in the Valley of Mexico (Valle de México), a large valley in the high plateaus in the center of Mexico, at an altitude of 2,240 meters (7,350 ft).
… the population of Greater Mexico City is [22,013,412 people] which makes it the second-largest metropolitan area of the Western Hemisphere (behind Sao Paulo, Brazil… [with 22,346,768 people]). Mexico’s capital is both the oldest capital city in the Americas and one of two founded by indigenous people the other being Quito, Ecuador. The city was originally built on an island of Lake Texcoco by the Aztecs in 1325 as Tenochtitlan, which was almost completely destroyed in… 1521… Mexico City was systematically rebuilt by Cortes…
Much of the identity, traditions and architecture of Mexico developed during the 300-year colonial period from 1521 to independence in 1821. The two pillars of Spanish rule were the State and the Roman Catholic Church, both under the authority of the Spanish crown. In 1493 the pope had granted sweeping powers to the Spanish crown, with the proviso that the crown spread Christianity in its new realms. [Montezuma’s] successor and brother Cuitlahuac took control of the Aztec empire, but was among the first to fall from the first smallpox epidemic in the area a short time later.
Unintentionally introduced by Spanish conquerors, among whom smallpox, measles, and other contagious diseases were endemic, epidemics of Old World infectious diseases ravaged Mesoamerica starting in the 1520s. Severely weakened, the Aztec empire was easily defeated by Cortes and his forces on his second return… The territory became part of the Spanish Empire under the name of New Spain [Nueva Espana] in 1535.
The indigenous population stabilized around one to one and a half million individuals in the 17th century from the most commonly accepted five to thirty million pre-contact population.’
Lacandon Jungle
‘During the three hundred years of the colonial era, Mexico received between 400,000 and 500,000 Europeans, between 200,000 and 250,000 African slaves and between 40,000 and 120,000 Asians.
The first census in Mexico (New Spain) that included an ethnic classification was the 1793 census. Also known as the Revillagigedo census.
Europeans ranged from 18% to 22% of New Spain’s population,
Mestizos from 21% to 25%,
Indians from 51% to 61%…
The total population ranged from 3,799,561 to 6,122,354.
Society was organized in a racial hierarchy, with whites on top,
mixed-race persons and blacks in the middle, and
indigenous [Indians] at the bottom’
– Chapter III Tiras the Amerindian; and Chapter XII Canaan & Africa.
‘In the late eighteenth century the crown instituted reforms that privileged Iberian-born Spaniards (peninsulares) over American-born (criollos), limiting their access to offices. This discrimination between the two became a sparking point of discontent for white elites in the colony.
Mexico covers 1,972,550 square kilometers (761,610 square miles)… making it the world’s 13th-largest country by area, [11th]-most populous country and most populous Spanish-speaking nation. It is a federation comprising 31 states.
Pre-Columbian Mexico traces its origins to 8,000 BC and is identified as one of six cradles of civilisation; it was home to many advanced… civilizations, most well known among them the [Olmecs], Maya and the Aztecs.
The War of Texas Independence in 1836 and the Mexican-American War led to huge territorial losses in Mexico’s sparsely populated north, contiguous to the United States.’
The Mexican military is ranked 32nd out of 145 countries in terms of military strength. Mexico maintains an active personnel count of approximately 387,000 people and had a defence budget of $15.652 billion for 2024.
‘The Mexican Armed Forces maintain significant infrastructure… advanced naval dockyards… and advanced missile technologies. In recent years, Mexico… has taken steps to becoming more self-reliant in supplying its military by designing as well as manufacturing its own arms, missiles, aircraft, vehicles, heavy weaponry, electronics, defense systems, armor, heavy military industrial equipment and heavy naval vessels.
Historically, Mexico has remained neutral in international conflicts, with the exception of World War II. However, in recent years some political parties have proposed an amendment of the Constitution to allow the Mexican Army, Air Force or Navy to collaborate with the United Nations in peacekeeping missions, or to provide military help to countries that officially ask for it.’
The above comparison is redundant on two counts.
Firstly, Brazil has a significantly stronger military compared to Mexico, with approximately 762,000 active personnel versus Mexico’s 341,000. Coupled with the fact that Brazil operates 63 combat aircraft and 294 main battle tanks, while Mexico has only 4 combat aircraft and no tanks.
Secondly, indications in the Bible are that Mexico (Philistines) and Brazil (Tyre) will be allies as opposed to being enemies – Joel 3:4, Jeremiah 47:4, Psalm 83:7.
Bible prophecy reveals the Philistines will become an increasing economic and military presence, while steadily growing as a thorn in the side of their neighbours; the dominant descendants of Jacob – refer Chapter XXXIII Manasseh & Ephraim – the Birthright Tribes; and Chapter XXXIV Dan: The Invisible Tribe.
Encyclopaedia:
‘The electronics industry of Mexico has grown enormously within the last decade. Mexico has the sixth largest electronics industry in the world after China [1], [the] United States [2], Japan [3], South Korea [4] and Taiwan [5].
Mexico produces the most automobiles of any North American nation. The industry produces technologically complex components and engages in some research and development activities…’
Mexican men
Mexico’s GDP was $1.69 trillion in 2025, making it the 15th largest economy in the world.
Over recent decades, Mexico emerged as a manufacturing economy under a series of free trade arrangements with the United States, Canada, and forty-four other nations. Many major United States manufacturers have integrated supply chains with counterparts or operations in Mexico.
Encyclopaedia:
‘The international drug trade constitutes an ongoing challenge to Mexico’s development, which has directly contributed to violence and corruption in the country.’
Monterrey, Mexico
‘The following export product groups categorize the highest dollar value in Mexican global shipments during 2025.
Machinery including computers: US$164 billion
Vehicles: $152.1 billion
Electrical machinery, equipment: $113 billion
Optical, technical, medical apparatus: $32.7 billion
Machinery including computers represent the fastest grower among the top 10 export categories, up by 54.8% from 2024 to 2025. In second place for improving export sales was ores, slag and ash via a 27.1% advance. Mexico’s shipments of gems and precious metals posted the third-fastest gain in value, up by 20%. The leading decliner among Mexico’s top 10 export categories was mineral fuels including oil, pulled down by a -26.7% year-over-year drop.’
Encyclopaedia:
‘The large economy, area, population and politics make Mexico a regional power and a middle power, and is often identified as an emerging power. However, Mexico continues to struggle with social inequalities, poverty and extensive crime; the country ranks poorly on the Global Peace Index.’
Mexican women
Aside from Mexico being a Latin economic leader, Venezuela is number eight in the top ten countries with the most Natural Resources. Venezuela has an estimated $14.3 trillion worth of natural resources and is the leading exporter of bauxite, coal, gold, iron ore, and oil.
Flag of Venezuela and the pan South American colours comprising Yellow, blue and red.
Incredibly, the country’s oil reserves are greater than those of the United States, Canada, and Mexico combined. Venezuela is the third largest producer of coal after Brazil and Colombia. It also has the eighth largest reserves of natural gas accounting for 2.7% of the global supply and Venezuela has the second largest reserves of gold deposits in the world.
Man and woman from Venezuela
Encyclopaedia:
‘The coat of arms of Mexico [below] is a national symbol of Mexico and depicts a Mexican eagle perched on a prickly pear cactus devouring a rattlesnake. The design is rooted in the legend that the Aztec people would know where to build their city once they saw an eagle eating a snake on top of a lake. The image has been an important symbol of Mexican politics and culture for centuries. To the people of Tenochtitlan, this symbol had strong religious connotations, and to the Europeans, it came to symbolize the triumph of good over evil (with the snake sometimes representative of the serpent in the Garden of Eden).’
Encyclopaedia:
‘Regardless of ethnicity, the majority of Mexicans are united under the same national identity…
it is also observed that when asked directly about their ethno-racial identification, many Mexicans nowadays do not identify as Mestizos and that “static” ethnoracial labels such as “White” or “Indian” are far more prominent in contemporary Mexican society than the “Mestizo” one is…
… estimates of the percentage of European-descended Mexicans vary considerably depending [on] the criteria used:
recent nationwide field surveys that account for different phenotypical traits (hair color, skin color etc.) report a percentage between 18% – 23% if the criteria is the presence of blond hair, and of 47% if the criteria is skin color…
While during the colonial era, most of the European migration into Mexico was Spanish, in the 19th and 20th centuries a substantial number of non-Spanish Europeans immigrated to the country, with Europeans often being the most numerous ethnic group in colonial Mexican cities.
Nowadays Mexico’s northern and western regions have the highest percentages of European populations, with the majority of the people not having native admixture or being of predominantly European ancestry.
The Afro-Mexican population (1,381,853 individuals as of 2015) is an ethnic group made up of descendants of Colonial-era slaves and recent immigrants of sub-Saharan African descent. Mexico had an active slave trade during the colonial period, and some 200,000 Africans were taken there, primarily in the 17th century.
The creation of a national Mexican identity, especially after the Mexican Revolution, emphasized Mexico’s indigenous and European past; it passively eliminated the African ancestors and contributions. Most of the African-descended population was absorbed into the surrounding Mestizo (mixed European/indigenous) and indigenous populations through unions among the groups. Evidence of this long history of intermarriage with Mestizo and indigenous Mexicans is also expressed in the fact that in the 2015 inter-census, 64.9% (896,829) of Afro-Mexicans also identified as indigenous.
During the early 20th century, a substantial number of Arabs (mostly Christians), began arriving from the crumbling Ottoman Empire. The largest group were the Lebanese and an estimated 400,000 Mexicans have some Lebanese ancestry.’
A sampling of revealing quotes from a forum entitled:
What ancestry do most Mexicans have really?
“… even the Spanish mixed with the Moors, and were already a heavily mixed group before they arrived to the Americas…Actually, mostSpanish/Spaniards were and still are white people, not mixed.”
2. “The claim of Spain being racially and genetically mixed is often exaggerated. As for Mexicans most Mexicans are a mix of European, Native American, African, Asian in varying degrees.”
“I’ve been to both Spain and Mexico and the difference in physical appearance in both countries is quite palpable… the average Mexican face stands out in Spain, you can easily tell they come from the americas.”
“Mexicans are very diverse. Many look hardcore native, others look Arab, others look Italian, and others blend with white Americans (albeit most of these have light skin, dark brown hair, and dark eyes). All of my brothers and sisters and I look so different, it is amazing. I look Asian. My sister looks Middle Eastern. Everyone thinks my mother is Armenian. My little sister has blondish hair with hazel eyes. My father looks Native American. My extended family is just as mixed!”
“Many of the Spaniards were of [‘Jewish’] or Morisco (Moorish) heritage. There are records that in 1492, 1 out of every 4 Spaniards was a Jew or of [‘Jewish’] background. Because of the Inquisition, a great deal of those Converso Jews and Moors fled to the New World to escape, so factor in how many of those made it to Mexico and started families. Moriscos were Moors forced to convert to Catholicism, and were also discriminated and persecuted for centuries due to the Inquisition because of their Muslim roots. I am Mexican of Jewish Converso blood on my father’s side. Many of my dad’s family look Middle Eastern.“
“Around the middle of the 10th century, the majority of Spaniards living within Andalusia had converted to Islam. The Arabic language was then fully adopted by the 12th century, and it had supplanted the Arabized-Latin dialect (“Mozarabic”) that was spoken in Andalusia. Muslims did make the majority of Andalusia at one period in history. By the time of the Fall of Granada, the Muslim Spaniards had assimilated the minorities (Mid-Easterners, North Africans, Visigoths, Blacks, East Europeans) and the whole nation had become an “Arab” Andalusian society. That is to say, they identified as “Arabs” and… [were] called “Moors” in the West… Today’s Spaniards are not Muslim nor Arabic-speaking because the Christian Spaniards from [the] north… converted them to Christianity and imposed the Romance (mostly Castillian) language upon them. North Africans, Arabs, and Jews are ancestors of some Mexicans…”
March of the Titans, Arthur Kemp, 1999 & 2016, page 430:
‘Although led by a white-looking elite, the vast majority of the population of Mexico was, and still is, of mixed-racial origin, and openly antagonistic to the white settlers to the north [in the USA], referring to them disparagingly as “gringoes,” a slang term which means “foreigner.” That Mexicans and other Latin Americans refer to whites as “foreigners” reveals much about the racial attitudes which prevailed, and still prevail, in this part of the world.’
Men from Argentina
Encyclopaedia – emphasis & bold mine:
‘In the Y-chromosome, the haplogroup R1b (West Europeangene) is prevalent and is carried by 50% of Mexican men.
Haplogroups J1/J2 (Middle Eastern) and E1b1b (North African) combined show up in 20% of Mexican men.
Haplogroups G, I[2a1], and R1a (Caucasus, Balkans, and East European, respectively) show up at a combined 12% of Mexican males.
Haplogroup Q (Amerindian/Native American) is carried by around 16% of Mexican males.’
Argentinian women
It is quite apparent when comparing Latins from Spain and Latinos (or Hispanics) from the Americas, that there is a difference. Many Central and South Americans do look like or could pass as an Arab. Males in this category would ostensibly carry Haplogroups J2, J1 or E1b1b and be from a Moorish or Arab and Berber related lineage, signalling a likely descent from Casluh, Caphtor or Canaan – Chapter XIV Mizra: North Africa & Arabia; and Chapter XII Canaan & Africa.
And, there are people with either fair or sallow skin and features more reminiscent of an Iberian in these countries too. These men are likely descended from Aram and possessing Haplogroup R1b.
As varied amounts of Europeans have migrated to the Americas, there will be a small minority of those of true Spanish and Italian descent who are actually the same as Spaniards and Italians in Europe and while descendants of Aram, not necessarily those who could be deemed Philistines. They are obviously not descended from Mizra and the Moors and though migrating from Spain and Italy, they are not Vandal or Alan heritage either, but rather, possess Visigoth or Ostrogoth ancestry. We will later confirm an historic precedent for these two peoples being closely aligned as they were in the Iberian Peninsula as Vandals and Visigoths and in the ancient past as Philistines and Phoenicians – refer Chapter XXIII Aram & Tyre: Spain, Portugal & Brazil.
There are Haplogroup clades associated with Europeans, just as there are for Arabs, Indians, Asians and Africans. The Y-DNA Haplogroup R1a is found outside of Europe, for example in South Asia via admixture; though it is principally a European marker – Chapter XIII India & Pakistan: Cush & Phut; and Chapter XXIV Arphaxad & Joktan: Balts, Slavs & the Balkans.
Europe is split roughly in half, with R1a being indicative of Eastern Europe and the Slavic speaking peoples and R1b associated with Western Europe, from the Nordic nations in the north through to the Latin nations of Southern Europe.
What the online encyclopaedia does not delineate, is if the Haplogroups identified as ‘European’ and principally R1b – such as the major sub-clade for non Asian and Africans, R-M269 (R1b1a1b) – are exhibited in different frequencies and concentrations in the Central and South American White male populations, compared with the Spanish and Italians of Europe. Nor does it discuss the variety of R1b sub-clades that are not typical to northwestern and western Europeans yet which are found in Mexican men and in other males of Central and South American nations.
The R1b in Latin America men reveals its ancestral link with Iberia in southwestern Europe. This is due in part to the fact that this is where the Hispanics have most recently originated from and where they have intermixed with the Spanish over many centuries. Conversely, a residue of descendants from Casluh (Caphtor) and the Aramaean Philistines undoubtedly still reside in Spain.
The following article addresses the difference in the percentage ratio of R1b in Mexican males, compared to their ‘origin’ with the Spanish in Spain – as well as the inclusion of R1 in the Native Indian population prior to the arrival of the Spanish.
Geneticists have been lax, in assuming that European peoples in the Americas – including the United States, Canada and other immigrant nations constituting Australia, New Zealand and South Africa – with their lineage from Europe, entirely carry the same Haplogroups and myriad sub-clades. The truth is that these new nations outside Europe, are unique and individual nations with their own Haplogroup footprint. The principal manner of understanding these new nations identities, is to appreciate they are not exact extensions of the mother country, but distinct daughter nations.
Y chromosome Haplogroup R in America, The overlooked lineage, Austin Whittall, 2014 – emphasis & bold mine:
‘There is a very particular Y chromosome haplogroup in the Americas which is often ignored, overlooked or clumped together with “others” since it is not considered a founding lineage:
haplogroup R [M207] with its M173 mutation [R1].
Since modern Eurasian populations are predominantly haplogroup R, the Spaniards and Portuguese, French and British have a high proportion of hg. R in their genes. It was these people who discovered and conquered America so their admixture with the conquered American Native races will surely be reflected in contemporary Native Americans’ Y chromosomes by the presence of typically European R haplotypes.
Officially there are two Y chromosome haplogroups accepted as founding lineages in America:
haplogroup Q, which prevails among Amerindians with a 92.9% frequency and a less frequent haplogroup C, which is found at a much lower 7.1% frequency among indigenous American men, mostly in North America, but also with a patchy distribution in South America’ – refer Chapter II Tiras the Amerindian.
‘Then we have Haplogroup R which is considered by some to also be another Y chromosome founding Amerindian haplogroups. See, for instance Schurr et al., (2004) who add haplogroups P-M45, F-M89 and R1a1-M17 to hgs. Q and C as founding lineages. But others such as Zegura et al., (2004) are quite convinced that haplogroup R in Native Americans is of a recent European origin and that it admixed into the local natives during the last 500 years, after the discovery of America in 1492. This is a reasonable assumption: Hg. R[1] is found among Europeans at very high frequencies. But, it is also found all over the world, so why would it be absent in America?
Although the presence of hg. R[2] in South eastern Asia and Australia could also be attributed to European colonization (the Spaniards in the Philippines, the French in Indochina, the Dutch in Indonesia, and the British in Australia, etc.), but actually there is no serious academic objections to the notion that these are local Asian haplotypes and not the outcome recent admixture… [combined] data from three papers… show the frequency of hg. R in certain parts of the Old World and the Americas…
…the Asian frequencies are relatively low (2.5 to 8.6%), furthermore haplogroup R has not been detected in the highlands or coastal areas of West New Guinea and Papua New Guinea, New Britain, Moluccas, Vietnam (surprising since this was actually a French Colony) Taiwan or China. The American data on the other hand is quite different; the frequencies are much higher among some groups (12.6 to 100%), and lower in others (2.5 to 8.3%), at levels similar to those found in Asians.
This panorama indicates, in my opinion that America has the basic ancient coating of haplogroup R at Asian levels which was later overlain by additional hg. R from the European settlers. The problem is that mainstream science places all hg. R natives into the “mixed – races” category and dismisses haplogroup R as a founding lineage among Native Americans.’
But was a certain Haplogroup R really a founding lineage? Where did the ‘basic ancient coating of haplgroup R’ originate from? If not from admixture in the distant past? For Y-DNA Haplogroups C, D, K, N, O and Q are indicative of an Oriental, Eastern, Asian or Yellow origin. Whereas paternal Haplogroups G, I and R are indicative of a European, Western, Occidental or White origin. It is the conviction of this writer that any exceptions are from admixture via intermixing and intermarriage – refer article: Y-DNA Adam & mtDNA Eve:The Genesis and Evolution of Homo sapiens.
Whittall:
‘The whole of Mexico which has a very dense population and a history of admixture… of Spaniards with Native Americans and also (but to a lesser extent, African slaves) has a very low frequency of haplogroup R. Why?
Spaniards have a high frequency of hg. R and were particularly keen on mingling with the locals (natives) and with the African slaves (in Northern South America and Central America mostly), to an even greater degree than the more Puritan New England settlers. Admixture was due to a very concrete cause: women did not want to cross the oceans and settle in the New World. The few that did were wives of the Royal government officials. So the only available source of women were the local natives. Initially Spanish colonies were based on exploiting the local natives in mines and smelters to produce precious metals for export back to the Metropolis. The conquistadors were men whose aim was to make a quick fortune and return home to wife and family. Their relationships in America were basic and obviously had only one outlet: the local women. Only much later would European women migrate to America but again, they would only wed within their social circles.
So quite soon, Spanish American societies had plenty of mixed-race people:
Spanish with Indian resulted in Mestizo,
Spanish and Mestizo in Castizo,
Mestizo and Indian: Coyote,
a black and a Spanish woman: Mulato,
and so on… To maintain social order, each group had its privileges and obligations marked out by the Crown’s law (for instance Mestizos could not bear arms or have Indians given to them as encomienda – a form of serfdom), these legal inequalities eventually festered into the independence revolutions that began in 1810 and led to the creation of Spanish Americas Republics, ran by Criollos (descendants of Spaniards, but born in America) and Mestizos.
So, why is the prevalence of R haplogroup lower in Mexico and their former Colonial territories in S.W. USA? Do Spaniards have less proportion of haplogroup R than the French (in Canada) or the Britons (in the Eastern Seabord states)? No they don’t. Current Spaniards have between 51 and 85% haplogroup R, similar to the frequencies found among English and French. So this is not the cause of the unequal cline. And we have seen above that there was no reluctance on their part towards mingling with the natives.
I believe that the reason for this is that haplogroup R was already present among the natives as a founding clade in America, introgression with Europeans added some percentage points to the mix, and very likely it incorporated new European R haplotypes, but there was a substantial presence of hg. R among North American natives. These appear… in the joining-network trees as outliers with unique haplotypes not shared with Europeans.’
While there is little argument with Haplogroup R1 having an ancient ‘outlier’ presence in the Amerindian with ‘unique haplotypes’; this writer does not concur that it is original with them but rather from admixture in the distant past.
An example is with their name sakes in the Indian sub-Continent, who possess R1a-Z93. A mutation common to Central Asia, Southwest Asia and South Asia, yet still having its origin in R1a-M417 – a line originating with White males. For while Indian men can be erroneously labeled Aryan or Indo-European, they are no such thing and are a result of admixture, pure and simple – refer Chapter XIII India & Pakistan: Cush & Phut.
So too, for any Amerindian male who possesses Haplogroup R1. It proves in the past, a non-Amerindian male was his ancient ancestor.
Whittall:
‘The exceptions that confirm the rule. The issue can be easily settled. An in depth sequencing of native hg. R haplotypes would help distinguish the “American” lines from those haplotypes that are surely “European”, however this has not been done. There is a clear preconception – prejudice among scholars that simply ignores the option that hg. R is a founding lineage among Amerindians.’
Whittall’s frustration is understandable, though results from such a test would reveal the mutational differences between an early R1 infusion and R1 admixture in more recent centuries. It would not validate Haplogroup R1 as an original founding lineage only that is was an early admixture. The same case could be said for Haplogroup C found in a minority of Amerindian males. This shows commonality through admixture with those males in Central Asia who predominantly carry Haplogroup C. It is in fact Haplogroup Q, which is the defining marker Haplogroup for Amerindian men; not C even and definitely not R1.
Even so, Austin Whittall as far back as 2014, raises a key point. Though not with just any differences between the founding Spanish and the Amerindian Y-DNA R1 Haplogroup, but taken one step further to include a comparison between the founding Spanish and those that remained in Spain. Science will provide the data we seek, as the Principle Component Analysis plot below left highlights the relative genetic difference between the Latino and European peoples.
Results should support the premise that R1b sub-clades carried to the America’s are not all the same as those that either remained in Spain or more accurately are not all exhibited by the Spanish in Spain.
In fact, the Mexico DNA Project poses a similar question – emphasis mine:
“It is widely believed that a large percentage of the earliest settlers of Mexico may have origins in the Middle East and were a result of the expulsion of non-Catholics out of Spain, just before the conquest of Mexico. Did the early Iberian settlers of Mexico have proportionately different origins than modern day Spaniards?”
We will discover in fact, that there are clues that the differences in R1b sub-clades in the Americas do exist, as completed studies by the Mexico DNA Project on specific people and surnames reflective of Mexican heritage via Spain, have flagged outlier R1b Haplotypes.
‘Since most studies consider haplogroup R as a non-Native American line, it is “often removed from phylogenetic analysis”. As an example I quote a paper (Malhi et al., 2008) which describes the methodology:
“All individuals that did not belong to haplogroup Q and C were excluded from the Haplotype data set because these haplotypes are likely the result of non-native admixture“. And that is that; the data that is inconvenient is not even analysed. In all fairness, some studies have included Amerindian hg. R in their data (to disprove it as a founding lineage) and others have proposed it is a founding lineage, but that was long ago…
[One] paper… compares haplotypes… [and] overlooks something very interesting: 28.3%* of the populations sampled belonged to hg. R., the majority were R1b1a2, [now R1b1a1b – M269] but 2 individuals out of the 40 belonging to hg. R, were typed as being R1a1a1. This is… uncommon… identified by the mutations M17 ([M198] for R1a1a) and M417 (for R1a1a1), both are very basal and are found in men living in a vast area: Northern India, Slavic countries, Siberia, and, evidently America. This is not the typical R1b Western European haplotype, it is a rare variety. Of course, the authors do not analyse the R hg. samples at all. They declare it foreign and then focus on the accepted Amerindian lineages (Q and C).’
Encyclopaedia – emphasis & bold mine:
‘In a study conducted in 2014 by V. V. Ilyinskyon on bone fragments from 10 Alanic burials on the Don River, DNA could be abstracted from a total of seven. Four of them turned out to belong to yDNA Haplogroup G2 and six of them had mtDNA I. The fact that many of the samples share the same y- and mtDNA raises the possibility that the tested individuals belonged to the same tribe or even were close relatives. In 2015 the Institute of Archaeology in Moscow conducted research on various Sarmato-Alan and Saltovo-Mayaki culture Kurgan burials.
In this analysis, the two Alan samples from the 4th to 6th century AD had yDNAs G2a-P15 and R1a-z94, while from the three Sarmatian samples from 2nd to 3rd century AD two had yDNA J1-M267 and one possessed R1a. Also, the three Saltovo-Mayaki samples from 8th to 9th century AD turned out to have yDNAs G, J2a-M410 and R1a-z94 respectively. A genetic study published in Nature in May 2018 examined the remains of six Alans buried in the Caucasus from ca. 100 AD to 1400 AD. The sample of Y-DNA extracted belonged to haplogroup R1 and haplogroup Q-M242.’
The Haplogroup findings in this study are evidence of later peoples falling under the umbrella of the Alan-Sarmatian label. The Y-DNA Haplogroup G, is an older mutation yet lesser frequency clade of European descent. The Haplogroup remotely close was the one significantly earlier, R1. The other Haplogroups of particular interest are J1 and J2; indicative of the Arab and Arab related peoples of the Middle East, West Asia and South West Asia respectively – which would include descendants of Casluh (and Caphtor).
Eupedia: Genetic History of the Italians, Maciamo Hay, 2013 & 2017 – emphasis & bold mine:
‘The Vandals were the first to reach the Italian peninsula. They had migrated to Iberia, then crossed over [to] North Africa in 429, where they founded a kingdom that also comprised Sicily, Sardinia and Corsica. Sardinia is the best place to look for traces of their DNA because on the one hand it is the best studied region of Italy, and on the other hand no other Germanic peoples settled there (apart from a very brief Gothic reign), which means that the presence of Germanic lineages on the island would incontestably be of Vandalic origin.
Based on the detailed Y-chromosomal study of 1200 Sardinians by Francalacci et al. (2013), the Vandals appeared to have carried 35% of R1a, 29% of I2a2a, 24%*of R1b, 6% of I2a1b* and a mere 6% of I1.
The subclades identified were I1a3a2 (L1237+), I2a2a (L699+ and CTS616+), I2a1b (M423+), R1a-Z282 (including some Z280+), R1a-M458 (L1029+), R1b-U106 (Z381+), R1b-L21 (DF13>L513+), R1b-DF27 (Z196>Z209+).
The probable reason for the elevated (Proto-)Slavic R1a and the presence of the Eastern European I2-M423* is that the Vandals stayed in Poland before migrating to the Roman Empire. Over a third of Vandalic male lineages were therefore of Proto-Slavic origin.’
Not sure if these findings are helpful, as the percentages for R1a and I2a2 do not appear to match anyone today in the Americas. Of most interest are the R1b details as particularly R1b-DF27 is associated with Iberia. R1b-U106 is associated with Central and Western Europe, thus highlighting perhaps the similarity or the related ‘Spanish’ who left for the America’s compared to the Spaniards who stayed. Interestingly, the R1b-Z381 sub-clade is invariably indicative of a royal line – Articles: Y-DNA Adam & mtDNA Eve: The Genesis & Evolution of Homo sapiens; and The Life & Death of Charles III.
The principle Arabic mtDNA Haplogroups are L, H and U – which are shared with Europeans, except L, shared with sub-Saharan Africans – and the main Y-DNA Haplogroups are J1, J2, E1b1b (through admixture) and to a lesser degree, T. These Y-DNA Haplogroups are not indicative of Europeans, apart from exceptions in southeastern Europe and western Asia through admixture. The main European Haplogroups in contrast, are R1a, R1b, I1 and I2a.
It is worth noting the Spanish of the America’s exhibiting higher levels of Haplogroups associated with Arabs; which supports the proposed link between the Latino-Hispano of Central and South America with not just Aram but also kin descended from Mizra’s sons – while not forgetting a possible ancient relationship between Pathros of Egypt and Casluh from North Africa and subsequently Caphtor.
There is scant information on the Haplogroups of Spanish descended peoples in the Americas. Particularly regarding mtDNA maternal Haplogroups as the focus understandably, is placed on the Amerindian wives which the vast majority of Conquistadors and settlers took. The main Haplogroups of the Native American wives – refer Chapter II Tiras the Amerindian – were A2, B2, C1 and D1 totalling an average of 93.3%.
The mtDNA Haplogroups associated with Spanish admixture, include H, J, K, T, U and V, totalling some 6.7%; and from Africans, L3 amounting to 0.7%. All are all low percentages in the pie chart diagram above, showing the mtDNA of the Mexican Mestizo (European and Indian mixed) population.
An online forum included one person with Native American ancestry, who stated their mtDNA Haplogroup was B2g2, while another shared:
‘A Cuban-American friend had tested 95% European and 4% Native American, yet had the mtDNA Haplogroup A2d1, which is Native American.’ Thus showing a Native American heritage through the maternal line.
The main R1b sub-Haplogroups stemming from M269 include the following:
U106, which is frequent in Western Europe and decreases throughout Central Europe, reaching 66.8% in parts of Germany;
U152, the most frequent in France as well as in northern and central Italy;
U198, prevalent in England; and
M529, with high frequencies in Wales, Scotland and Ireland; though it is
S116 that is the sub-lineage heavily associated with the Iberian Peninsula.
From which derives DF27 and includes M153, located primarily in the Basque Country of Spain and France; with a very high frequency in Gascony.
DF27 also includes M167,** which is found at high frequencies in northeastern Spain, the Pyrenees and principally Catalonia.* It is also found in the Celtic arc of peoples, which includes: the Basque Country, Portugal, parts of western Europe, Wales and Cornwall, England.
Interesting R1b sub-clades which showed up in the Mexico DNA Project’s analysis included P25, a NorthAfrican clade relating particularly to Jews.
L21>DF73, a northwestern Iberian clade; though typically, L21 is associated with northwestern Europe;
L150, a North African and eastern European clade; and
P66, of rare Italian origin.
This is pertinent as we know some Vandals and Alans migrated to Italy.
Of more interest, was not the expected M269 which is dominant throughout western Europe, but the numerous clades associated with DF27. DF27 is of special interest as some of the peoples associated with it have the highest levels of Rh-negative blood types in the world. Something we will study further in article: Rhesus Negative Blood Factor.
R1b clades that appeared regularly included DF81, which stems from DF27.
The sub-lineage associated with DF27, M167 was frequent in the form of SRY 2627.**
One person commented on a forum:
“SRY2627 is just one small subclade of hundreds of subclades in the R1b tree. With so many subclades there is going to be a limited amount of people that are positive for the mutation. For instance, R1b exists in about 60% of the Spanish population, DF27 exists in about 40% of the Spanish population, about half of DF27 is Z195, and even fewer are Z198, and even fewer are Z292, and even fewer are SRY2627.”
Even so, the fact that SRY 2627 was frequent in Mexicans, shows their link to Catalonia* – over the rest of Spain. This is significant, because the Catalonians are also viewed as being distinct from the rest of Spain.
Another frequent clade of DF27 in Mexico is Z196; strongly linked with Iberia and southwest France.
M65 is a R1b clade associated with the Basque like M153.
Two clades that were very frequent in the Mexican’s sampled included Z278 and Z214.
A comment online explains their relationship:
“My paternal Haplogroup also changed from R-z278 to R-Z214. R-z278 is most common in Northern Spain (Including Catalonia* and Galicia) the Basque Country and Gascony, but can also be found throughout Atlantic Europe and the British Isles.
R-Z214 is much more specific to the Basque Country and Gascony. In fact, if you’re positive for R-Z214 then there’s a good chance that you are positive for R-M153 which is downstream from R-Z214. R-M153 is called the “Basque Marker” and is virtually nonexistent outside of the Basque Country or with non-Basques. 23andMe does not test for R-M153.”
Other frequent Y-DNA Haplogroups include J2 and J1 clades, particularly J1-M267, which has its highest frequencies in the Middle East and North Africa and J1 P58, which is also indicative of Arabs in high frequencies.
Trace elements of E1b1a were found, though this would be from intermixing with Africans. Two derivatives of E1b1b (M215) were common, E1b1b1b (Z287) and E1b1b1b1; both tellingly associated with North Africa… the area that the Vandals and Alans occupied, sharing with Berbers and Arabs.
March of the Titans, Arthur Kemp, 1999 & 2016, pages 403-405:
‘It is estimated that over six million Europeans, mainly of Spanish or Italian origin, emigrated to Argentina after its establishment as an independent state [in 1816]. A genetic study… in 2009… concluded that Argentinian DNA is 78.6 percent European, 17.3 percent Amerind, and 4.2 percent African… in Bolivia… in 2006, whites made up 15 percent of the population, with the rest comprising Amerind or mixed-race elements… a 2006 genetic study by the University of Chile revealed that… 30 percent of Chileans had Caucasian-only ancestry… a 2006… study in Uruguay [showed] 82 percent of male chromosomes were of European origin, 8 percent Amerindian and 10 percent African. On the maternal side, 49 percent of chromosomes were of European origin, 30 percent were Amerind, and 21 percent African.
Venezuela does not keep racial statistics of any sort… Costa Rica on the other hand, has one of the highest white populations of all the Central American countries. Politically, these nations have swayed between totalitarian dictatorships and partial democracies, while socially, South America has become the source of some of the greatest disparities in the world. The end result of this tremendous mix of races in South America has been a continent of extremes: relatively well-off white enclaves surrounded by masses of desperately poor and ever growing numbers of nonwhites.’
“We like to be called the ‘Continent of Hope’… This hope is like a promise of heaven, an IOU whose payment is always put off” –
Pablo Neruda.
The Y-DNA Haplogroups for the nations of the Caribbean, Central, and South America with the limited data available. Note the countries are not strictly grouped geographically but with those which have a similar sequence. D.R. is the Dominican Republic and R1 includes R1b and R1a.
Paraguay: Q – R1 – E1b1b – J
Bolivia: Q – R1 – E1b1b – J – I2
Ecuador: Q – R1 – E1b1b – J – I2 – G
These three nations are situated in east-central South America and have a high proportion of native American Indians; hence the leading Haplogroup Q percentage – Chapter III Tiras the Amerindian.
The only other nation to exhibit Q as their dominant Haplogroup is Guatemala, situated to the south of Mexico.
Guatemala: Q – R1 – I2 – J – E1b1b – G
Two nations which have Q and R1 swapped as their two main Haplogroups are Belize and Peru. Belize is also beneath Mexico and northeast of Guatemala. Likewise, Peru is situated between the Indian led populations of Ecuador and Bolivia. In fact, it is Peru which Mexico shares a simpler sequence, when comparing the first three dominant Haplogroups comprising R1, Q and J.
Belize: R1 – Q – I2 – J – E1b1b – G
Peru: R1 – Q – J – I2 – E1b1b – G
The next set of Latino nations possess R1 as their primary Haplogroup and correspondingly, have either less or no, Haplogroup Q; due to considerably smaller indigenous Indian populations. In each case, Haplogroup J is second and includes El Salvador and Costa Rica from Central America and two groupings from South America: Colombia and Venezuela in the northwest of South America and Uruguay, Chile and Argentina in the southern tip of South America.
El Salvador: R1 – J – I2 – E1b1b – Q – G
Costa Rica: R1 – J – E1b1b – I2 – G
Colombia: R1 – J – E1b1b – I2 – G
Venezuela: R1 – J – E1b1b – I2 – G
Uruguay: R1 – J – E1b1b – I2 – G
Chile: R1 – J – E1b1b – I2 – G – Q
Argentina: R1 – J – E1b1b – I2 – G – Q
Costa Rica like Argentina and it near neighbours exhibits a higher percentage of European descended citizens – from principally Spain and Italy – as shown by the R1 Haplogroup, indicative of a male line of descent from Aram. Whereas the J Haplogroup is reflective of an Arab related lineage from Casluh (and Caphtor).
The next three nations in Central America have relatively high Indian admixture and are also where Haplogroup E1b1b is more dominant – a Haplogroup shared with the Berbers of North Africa and Pathros of Egypt – refer Chapter XIV Mizra: North Africa & Arabia.
Honduras: R1 – E1b1b – I2 – J – Q – G
Nicaragua: R1 – E1b1b – J – I2 – Q – G
Panama: R1 – E1b1b – Q – J – I2 – G
The last two countries exhibit a stronger Black African presence as evidenced by the Haplogroups E1b1a and B.
Cuba: R1 – E1b1a/E1b1b – I2 – G – J – T
D R: R1 – E1b1a/E1b1b – J – I2 – G -B
Though R1b, R1a and I2 are indicative of western and eastern Europeans, the Haplogroups comprising E1b1b and J are closer to nations from North Africa and the Middle East – and Southern Europe due to admixture – from the line of Ham.
While Haplogroup G is an ancient lineage from Shem dominant in the Caucasus. The lower percentage of R1b – in Mexico for instance – and the separate R1b clades which thread back to Iberia, reveal clues that the Latinos of the New World are distinct from the Latins of the Old.
The assumption that the Latin American peoples are the same as the people in Spain, has only led to confusion for geneticists, ethnologists, historians and biblical scholars alike. Mexico and Cuba, though near neighbours, appear to have the greatest contrast in Y-DNA composition between them and bookend the Latino nations.
Mexico has a high percentage of Indian males in its population as evidenced by Haplogroup Q; and shows its link with North Africa and the Middle East in its 20% share of Haplogroups J and E1b1b. Even so, a Mexican man with Haplogroup R1b, may not be primarily Spanish and instead a mix of ethnicities as shown by autosomal DNA.
Chapter XIV Mizra: North Africa & Arabia:
“Taking the core African Haplogroups A, B and E, these are the defining Canaanite Haplogroups – particularly E1b1a.
The core paternal Arab Haplogroup is J1 and to a lesser extent through admixture, J2 and E1b1b.
The Berbers are obviously related to the sub-Saharan Africans as they share E1b1b, which is a bridge Haplogroup for the two peoples.
The core Haplogroups for the South Asians are H, L and J2. These are the defining Haplogroups for Cush, the Sukki and Phut. Their bridge Haplogroup – which Canaan and Mizra do not exhibit in quantity – is Haplogroup L. India and Pakistan also share the bridge Haplogroup J2 with Arab related peoples and therefore, all these equatorial peoples are linked or bonded through the key Haplogroups of either primarily J2 or L.”
Comparing two sets of peoples each from
Canaan‘s descendants, Nigeria and Ethiopia;
Cush, India and Pakistan; and
Mizra, Egypt and Saudi Arabia,
previously was revealing, for it displayed the uniqueness and relatedness of Ham and or Na’eltama’uk’s descendants in equal measure.
A/B E1b1a E1b1b J1 J2 H L R1
Nigeria 13 68 4
Ethiopia 11 63
Egypt 1.3 3 46 21 7 1 8
Saudi Arabia 8 8 40 17 2 7
Pakistan 20 6 12 37
India 9 23 18 29
Mexico 10 [10] 54
The addition of Mexico, provides a contrasting bookend to Nigeria at the other end with its high level of E1b1a. Mexico on the other hand, exhibiting the highest percentage of Haplogroup, R1 due to its Aramaean majority.
A comparison of Egypt (Pathros) with Mexico (Casluh, Caphtor, Aram) and Aramaic Spain later, reveals that they are quite different. Ostensibly, Spain and Mexico look similar. Living together for fifteen hundred years cannot be discounted. The marked variance in R1b levels, shows there is yet a significant difference. It could be argued that intermixing with the Amerindian has reduced the R1b percentage.
Until detailed studies are implemented on the exact composition and descent of the R-M269 sub-Haplogroups – and particularly R1b-DF27 – in Mexico (and Latin America), it will remain open to debate.
The converse could also be a factor, in that Spain has increased levels of E1b1b and J because the descendants of Casluh (and Caphtor) dwelt on the Iberian Peninsula for a number of centuries and North Africa prior to that. As we progress and witness more identity discussion, the logic of the Philistine identity presented in this chapter will fit smoothly into place as the only plausible answer.
Just as there is a wide genetic gap between the Arab and the Black African – though they are surely related (as half-brothers) – the same is also true comparing Arab and Berber lineages; each a significant minority of the Latino-Hispano demographic in the Americas. The later identification of Spain, Brazil and the United States of America, will lend considerable weight in confirming the modern Philistine identity.
Thus ends the investigation into the descendants of Ham (and Na’eltama’uk).
The principle (maternal) mtDNA Haplogroups are in alphabetical order:
H, L, M and U.
Though it must be remembered that Haplogroup L is indicative of Canaan and Haplogroup M for Ham; while Haplogroups H and U have been absorbed into Ham’s maternal lineages through intermixture with Shem’s descendants.
Whereas the prime (paternal) Y-DNA Haplogroups are:
E1b1a, E1b1b, H, J1, J2 and L.
Haplogroups E1b1a and E1b1b are indicative of Canaan and Haplogroups, H, J1, J2 and L for Ham’s descendants respectively:
Cush, Mizra, Phut and the Sukkiim
– Chapter XIII India & Pakistan: Cush & Phut.
As we confirmed with Japheth’s sons, there is widespread confusion in the biblical identity community.
Cush is misidentified as Ethiopia or as the Black Africans with Phut, who is also incorrectly associated with the modern nation of Libya. Some equate Sheba and Dedan with Saudi Arabia; while Canaan and Mizra are barely identified with any significant country or people and the Philistines are invariably yet erroneously, linked with the Palestinians.
The constant reader now has a firm foundation to rely upon as we proceed to investigate the five sons of Shem, beginning in the next chapter.
Don’t answer fools according to their folly, or you will become like them yourself. Answer fools according to their folly, or they will deem themselves wise.
Proverbs 26:4-5 Common English Bible
“There is a view of life which conceives that where the crowd is, there is also truth. There is another view of life which conceives that wherever there is a crowd, there is untruth.”